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Thought this was worth showing. I'm sure I'll get blasted for doing this with a small BIG stack, but I am an aggressive player:
Two things to learn from this. First, I was pushing everytime if the little stack folded, with any two cards. Second, the reason why you don't want to call this bet, even with AK. Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t300 (4 handed) converter Hero (t2870) SB (t2200) BB (t1880) UTG (t1050) Preflop: Hero is Button with 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]. Preflop: BB is dealt A [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] K [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] Flop: (t4750) 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font> UTG folds, Hero pushes, SB folds, BB calls Turn: (t4750) 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font> River: (t4750) 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font> Final Pot: t4750 Scuba Chuck: "stupid call" Scuba Chuck: "welcome to 4th place buddy" Villain: "bs" Villain: "you're all-in every hand" Villain: "how's calling with ak stupid" Scuba_Chuck: "because ur in 4th place" There was a lot more railbirding following this, but I think you get the picture. |
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Actually, he's correct to call with that hand. The ICM wants 63.17% win to break even, AK's equity is 65.72.
Also, you want to be a little careful exploiting this principle because the Fundamental Theorem Of Poker doesn't apply to SNGs. Just because your opponent calls incorrectly doesn't mean it's good for you. |
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Okay, let's do the ICM calcs then. I've never done them for this before, so I'd like to see.
I am going to do them from Villains' point of view. Fold = 23.5% of prize pool. Push, win = 48.8% of the prize pool Push, lose = 0.00% of prize pool I'll give the benefit that the probability of winning with AK against any range of hands is 70% Thus Pushing = (.7)(.488) + 0 = 34% I guess you're right, pushing is the right thing to do, at least according to ICM. |
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Actually, he's correct to call with that hand. The ICM wants 63.17% win to break even, AK's equity is 65.72.
Can you explain how you got these ICM numbers to me? |
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I was running the numbers for specifically those two hands, 62 and AK (of those suits).
The AK equity I got with Pokerstove. The ICM number required to break even you do by creating an equation where x is that number and solving for x. Let a be ICM equity of folding (as a decimal) Let b be ICM equity of pushing and winning Let c be ICM equity of pushing and losing a = b(x) + c(1-x) Solve that for x. In this example c is zero, which simplifies things to a = b(x). |
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I like the aggression. The trash talk was low-class.
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Handled with true class and dignity. You dont really see the beneficiary of the suckout taunting the loser too often,
its a real treat. |
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I like the aggression. The trash talk was low-class. [/ QUOTE ] well said |
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I definately like the aggressive play on the bubble.
However, I'd have a hard time passing up on AK here if I were the BB. There are only a few hands I call with here and I think AK is one of them. BTW, I played few 20s with you yesterday Scuba_Chuck. I believe you busted out of one when your AA was cracked. |
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So, on that PARTICULAR hand, you're saying that it was a bad bet for Chuck to play AA?
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