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Old 07-26-2005, 02:37 AM
Rocaix Rocaix is offline
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Default Takin a Shot at 25/50, KK play

Been running very good lately at 10/20, I see two huge fish spewing chips at prima 25/50, so I decide to jump in to the game. Don't plan on making this my regular game though.

I have 5500, Villain covers

7-handed

Folds to me in CO with K [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]K [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]

I make it 200, Very good tricky villain who I suspect is a winner in this game calls from the BB.

Flop: 10 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 8 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 5 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]

Villain bets $300, I make it 1050 straight. He quickly calls.

Turn: 4 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]

check, check

River: 4 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]

He bets $2400, I think for a while and call.

Thoughts on my play, particularly the flop and the turn.
Standard stuff?
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Old 07-26-2005, 02:41 AM
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Default Re: Takin a Shot at 25/50, KK play

ship this pot immediately
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Old 07-26-2005, 03:08 AM
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Default Re: Takin a Shot at 25/50, KK play

what's your table image like?
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Old 07-26-2005, 03:15 AM
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Default Re: Takin a Shot at 25/50, KK play

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what's your table image like?

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Very Tight, for the most part I've been getting outta the way of the regulars and only trying to get involved with the two fish.
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Old 07-26-2005, 03:43 AM
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Default Re: Takin a Shot at 25/50, KK play

this is pretty tough. villain is probably good enough to deduce that you are a tight player, so he's probably got a good idea of your hand. when that 4 hits, it's a great card for an overpair to see, which is what he might be thinking. if he thinks you to be a simple, not too tricky player, i think my play here would be to fold. i'm not sure tho, i'd be itching towards a call, since it'd be an oddly played AA/set.
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Old 07-26-2005, 03:58 AM
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NH. I like it.
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Old 07-26-2005, 01:06 PM
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Default Re: Takin a Shot at 25/50, KK play

Hi tech,

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i'm not sure tho, i'd be itching towards a call, since it'd be an oddly played AA/set.


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Odd for AA? Yes. Odd for a set? I don't know about that. I often take this exact line with a set against somebody who probably had a good hand pre-flop: Bet the flop, hoping to get raised. Then, when you do get raised, re-raise if he's bad, call and go for a check-raise if he's good (or check-call turn, lead river, depending on a few things). If the check-raise whiffs, I make a nice fat bet on the river, just as I would some portion of the time if I'd missed a draw. On the flop, Villain represents a draw, by leading, and then backing off when he gets raised. Whatever happens from there, he's pretty much forcing you to guess.

Since we're guessing, I'm calling the 2400 in Rocaix's spot; maybe that's a testament to how good a line it is, or maybe to how much of a station I am.
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Old 07-26-2005, 01:13 PM
1800GAMBLER 1800GAMBLER is offline
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I still don't feel great about the river call, i have to assign huge value to the call just for meta game reason here, AA KK are pretty much my TOP hands i'll ever be holding here and if i fold the best hands to this line i'm in an awful situation later, but still i just can't see a good player trying to bluff me off what he knows is AA KK QQ etc. Your thoughts?
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Old 07-26-2005, 04:03 AM
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Default Re: Takin a Shot at 25/50, KK play

Does the 10/20 on prima go that frequently? Lately I feel like prima has been dying.
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Old 07-26-2005, 08:19 AM
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Hi Rocaix,

Well played on all streets. Expect to win often. If he shows you 76 them's the breaks. If he flopped a set, you couldn't have lost much less without giving up a ton of value.
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