Passive Blind Play

toss · #1 12-21-2005, 06:21 PM

Villain is unknown as I just sat down.

Party Poker 5/10 Hold'em (6 max, 6 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is BB with Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
4 folds, SB raises, Hero calls.

Flop: (4 SB) 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
SB checks, Hero checks.

Turn: (2 BB) J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
SB bets, Hero calls.

River: (4 BB) 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
SB bets, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 6 BB

Yads · #2 12-21-2005, 06:25 PM

I think I fold this PF, but given that you decided to call, I play it the same, most players that raise PF will bet when the ace comes to represent it, the fact that he checked is highly suspicious. Another line could be I suppose to bet the flop and fold to a CR.

jba · #3 12-21-2005, 07:09 PM

hmm... I like and I don't know what else to do. I don't really like betting the flop.

you're betting the river if he checks?

toss · #4 12-21-2005, 07:10 PM

Yep. I can see him calling with lower pairs.

scotty34 · #5 12-21-2005, 07:32 PM

I would probably fold this PF. Q4o is pretty ugly, and I don't like to take Q high to showdown.

Other than that, I play it the same, and bet the river if checked to.

Womble · #6 12-21-2005, 07:42 PM

Fold preflop,

As you called, I would probably bet the flop. An A will have probably continued betting or will c/r you here. This board scared him and you are not completely bluffing so weak PP may call down

toss · #7 12-21-2005, 08:04 PM

How high does our kicker need to be before we start calling here?

jba · #8 12-21-2005, 08:10 PM

i call here all the time. i certainly wouldn't fold Q4o preflop in a heads up match..

scotty34 · #9 12-21-2005, 08:19 PM

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i call here all the time. i certainly wouldn't fold Q4o preflop in a heads up match..

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I was half expecting a Q7o comment out of you [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]

I think this is dramatically different than an actual HU match. Against an unknown at the 5/10 game, I think Q4o is in pretty bad shape. Risk of domination is pretty bad, and I think we are behind a huge portion of an unknown's raises here. I'd stove it, but I am at my parents place for the holidays, and don't have any poker related software [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]

ArturiusX · #10 12-21-2005, 08:46 PM

Call is good, I like your post flop play.

I don't mind folding vs an unknown either, just see a showdown if you get a pair and it can't be much -EV.