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Old 07-08-2004, 10:27 AM
hulk3rules hulk3rules is offline
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Default Need some Advice on this AK hand

I'm not so sure if I played this wrong, got really unlucky, or a little bit of both. I don't really have any reads on anyone, so I was just trying to play it normal:

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (9 handed)

MP1 ($50.60)
MP2 ($13.25)
MP3 ($35.20)
CO ($30.05)
Button ($62.25)
SB ($154.80)
BB ($31.20)
UTG ($24.50)
Hero ($24.50)

Preflop: Hero is UTG+1 with K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="CC3333">Hero raises to $3</font>, MP1 calls $3, <font color="666666">1 fold</font>, MP3 calls $3, <font color="666666">1 fold</font>, Button calls $3, <font color="666666">2 folds</font>,

Flop: ($12.75) 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="blue">(4 players)</font>
<font color="CC3333">Hero bets $7.5</font>, MP1 calls $7.50, MP3 calls $7.50, Button folds.

Turn: ($35.25) 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="blue">(3 players)</font>
<font color="CC3333">Hero bets $14 (All-In)</font>, MP1 calls $14, MP3 calls $14.

River: ($77.25) 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="blue">(3 players, 1 all-in)</font>
<font color="CC3333">MP1 bets $26.1 (All-In)</font>, MP3 calls $10.70 (All-In).

Final Pot: $114.05
<font color="green">Main Pot: $77.25, between MP1, MP3 and Hero.</font> &gt; <font color="white">Pot won by MP3 ($77.25).</font>
<font color="green">Pot 2: $21.40, between MP1 and MP3.</font> &gt; <font color="white">Pot won by MP3 ($21.40).</font>
<font color="green">Pot 3: $15.40, returned to MP1.</font>

Results in white below: <font color="white">
Hero shows Kc Ad (two pair, kings and sixes).
MP1 shows Kd Td (two pair, kings and tens).
MP3 shows Qs 6s (three of a kind, sixes).
Outcome: MP3 wins $98.65. MP1 wins $15.40. </font>
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Old 07-08-2004, 11:23 AM
vulturesrow vulturesrow is offline
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Default Re: Need some Advice on this AK hand

personally I think you played it pretty well. The only thing I wouldve done differently is possibly push on the flop. Im sure others would disagree..at a bare minimum I wouldve made it a pot sized bet, but that is close to half your stack at that point..other than that, just one of those unlucky hands.

Chris
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Old 07-08-2004, 12:04 PM
Ian M. Ian M. is offline
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Default Re: Need some Advice on this AK hand

I wouldve been a little suspicious about that size of bet being called twice on the flop. I think your raise and bet on the flop does diagram AK, and yet the both still called. Despite that, I think you are pot committed on the turn and you played it pretty well.
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Old 07-08-2004, 12:27 PM
schwza schwza is offline
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Default Re: Need some Advice on this AK hand

i agree that you should've bet closer to the pot on the flop, but i also would have pushed on the turn. the flop calls make you nervous, but not so nervous you shouldn't bet again.
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Old 07-08-2004, 12:49 PM
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Default Re: Need some Advice on this AK hand

For what it's worth, Ciaffone would advise you limp preflop.
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Old 07-08-2004, 02:01 PM
hulk3rules hulk3rules is offline
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Default Re: Need some Advice on this AK hand

Yeah, when I look back at this, I probably should have slowed down once both those guys called my flop bet. If there was only one guy calling, I think I can keep going, but with two opponents, it's probably right to assume one of them can beat TPTK. Right?

@JohnG- I'm interested to hear what reasons there are for limping
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Old 07-10-2004, 06:21 PM
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Default Re: Need some Advice on this AK hand

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@JohnG- I'm interested to hear what reasons there are for limping

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It's related to the value of big unsuited cards on deep money, depth of money, number of players with postion to act behind you.

It's a discussion I had with him a while ago. It does not include when there are antes or when the money is shallow. It is for when there are no antes, and the money is at least 20X BB. In which case opening in early position is normally best to limp. The composition of table does not matter in this respect. If it is raised behind you, you can either call, fold, or re-raise all-in, with depth of money having a big effect on the options open to you, and the final choice of option depending on other factors. The reason to limp, and intention behind it, is different with 70X BB compared to when it is only 25X BB etc. It's basically just much easier to play this way, on all depths of money above 20XBB with no ante.
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Old 07-08-2004, 08:32 PM
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Default Re: Need some Advice on this AK hand

i just wanna know what MP3 was doing.
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Old 07-08-2004, 08:48 PM
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Default Re: Need some Advice on this AK hand

great example of bigstacks in PP are not automatically great players that should be feared...
if i joined the table after that hand, i'd see MP3 with almost 200BB, but look at how bad of a player he is!
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Old 07-08-2004, 09:50 PM
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Default Re: Need some Advice on this AK hand

After the flop I would have gone all-in. No one raised pre-flop. The flop helped you not them. Your raise of $7.50 wasn't enough to effect the stacks of either caller, so they called. Had you gone all in they would have folded.
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