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how much aggression to show with TPTK
I have posted a partial hand. Comments on all streets up to this point appreciated.
Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ Hero (6 max, 5 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx Button ($642) SB ($576.10) Hero ($1320.35) UTG ($381.10) MP ($962.45) Preflop: Hero is BB with A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]. SB posts a blind of $3. <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP raises to $15</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, Hero calls $9. Flop: ($33) T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP bets $25</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $75</font>, MP calls $50. Turn: ($183) 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $130</font> . . . |
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Re: how much aggression to show with TPTK
A min-raise may be more effective here. You'll be able to demonstrate strength without bloating the pot. Also, it will be much easier to get away if the turn completes the flush draw.
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Re: how much aggression to show with TPTK
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A min-raise may be more effective here. You'll be able to demonstrate strength without bloating the pot. Also, it will be much easier to get away if the turn completes the flush draw. [/ QUOTE ] Min raise in generally is garbage. You're asking your opponent to take a stance and raise you and I'm too thrilled about dumping a lot of money in a pot wit a10 for top pair....either lead out at the flop or check call him down. |
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Re: how much aggression to show with TPTK
Ace ten is usually junk against a raise.
What are rooting for - an ace on the flop? You might possibly be up against an ace with a stronger kicker. If you flop a ten you might be up against a bigger pocket pair. You could reraise preflop, but you're out of position for the entire hand if he decides to call. You would need a hell of a read to justify calling. Preflop, I would tend towards folding. |
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Re: how much aggression to show with TPTK
I agree I generally fold AT. But I had just folded a bunch of blinds in a row . . .
The ten isn't that strong, I know. But it gets better when you consider that opponents are regularly making continuation bets. |
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Re: how much aggression to show with TPTK
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I have posted a partial hand. Comments on all streets up to this point appreciated. Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ Hero (6 max, 5 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx Button ($642) SB ($576.10) Hero ($1320.35) UTG ($381.10) MP ($962.45) Preflop: Hero is BB with A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]. SB posts a blind of $3. <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP raises to $15</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, Hero calls $9. Flop: ($33) T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP bets $25</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $75</font>, MP calls $50. Turn: ($183) 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $130</font> . . . [/ QUOTE ] what are you hoping to flop oop when calling the pf raise? and why give your opponent nearly 3-1 on that weak check raise? |
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Re: how much aggression to show with TPTK
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[ QUOTE ] I have posted a partial hand. Comments on all streets up to this point appreciated. Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ Hero (6 max, 5 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx Button ($642) SB ($576.10) Hero ($1320.35) UTG ($381.10) MP ($962.45) Preflop: Hero is BB with A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]. SB posts a blind of $3. <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP raises to $15</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, Hero calls $9. Flop: ($33) T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP bets $25</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $75</font>, MP calls $50. Turn: ($183) 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $130</font> . . . [/ QUOTE ] what are you hoping to flop oop when calling the pf raise? and why give your opponent nearly 3-1 on that weak check raise? [/ QUOTE ] I totally agree about preflop. ATo is a valueless hand especially facing a raise oop. |
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Re: how much aggression to show with TPTK
i hate the checkraise on the flop. not a big fan of calling the preflop raise, either.
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Re: how much aggression to show with TPTK
Preflop -- I had been folding blinds left and right and felt a need to take a stand, even though my hand was not as good as I would have liked.
Flop -- He made a continuation bet. I don't put him on much of anything yet. I think my top pair is likely to be good. This is my standard raise size -- about half the pot. People fold for that plenty of times, though this time he didn't. |
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Re: how much aggression to show with TPTK
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Preflop -- I had been folding blinds left and right and felt a need to take a stand, even though my hand was not as good as I would have liked. [/ QUOTE ] You should have re-raised PF if you were tired of being pushed around. It is just way too likely that you are dominated here. [ QUOTE ] Flop -- He made a continuation bet. I don't put him on much of anything yet. I think my top pair is likely to be good. This is my standard raise size -- about half the pot. People fold for that plenty of times, though this time he didn't. [/ QUOTE ] Check raising the flop just bloats the pot out of position and you have a fairly weak holding. If he is ahead, he is way ahead. If he is behind, he has a lot of outs to improve, and now, you're playing a big pot out of position with no idea what he has, and no way to extract value from a weaker hand. The amount of your check raise makes it even more brutal, since he will fold approximately zero draws. Now, on the turn, you make a weak bet that is likely to signal weakness to the villian, and prompt him to blow you off the best hand, if you do indeed have the best hand. Fold PF. |
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