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Old 09-18-2003, 03:08 PM
M2d M2d is offline
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You have two candidates. One has no experience in the field, and the other has loads plus an MBA (MBA does not apply to this field, but his undergraduate degree and career experience do).

You interview the second candidate and love him. You think that his personality fits in well with the whole team, and his experience and areas of expertise fill gaps in your department. Additionally, you department is structured such that it operates fine at the current company size, but is destined to break down if the company grows, and the company is projected to more than triple in the next ten years. The second candidate comes from a company that went through a similar growth, and he was a part of successfully changing the department to a more universal structure.

Why the hell, oh hiring manager, would you select the first candidate? Do you really think that "he has an MBA, so he's going to jump ship at the first opportunity" is what your department needs?

just venting

and, no, I don't think an MBA is the be all end all. it's kind of a curse in the sciences, to tell you the truth.
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Old 09-18-2003, 04:06 PM
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Default Re: say you\'re a hiring manager

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Why the hell, oh hiring manager, would you select the first candidate?

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She was really hot?
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Old 09-18-2003, 05:15 PM
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Default Re: say you\'re a hiring manager

Perhaps the manager doing the hiring is paranoid about candidate 2 in that candidate 2's credentials and experience is threatening to that manager. For the hiring manager's own job security, they choose candidate 1. Irrational but IMO quite possible.
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Old 09-19-2003, 02:19 PM
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Default Re: say you\'re a hiring manager

Great Post. Too use an overworked cliché: I think you hit the nail on the head.

Most hiring managers are threaten or afraid of hiring people that they perceive as more intelligent or better at key jobs than themselves. It is a survival and defense mechanism, in my opinion. In addition, less experienced employees are easier to control and manipulate.

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Old 09-18-2003, 08:43 PM
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Default Re: say you\'re a hiring manager

i personally think an MBA is a joke and is as easy to get as fireworks in chinatown
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Old 09-19-2003, 11:05 AM
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So is a Bachelors, but that doesn't mean its not important to have.
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Old 09-19-2003, 02:39 PM
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I have no knowledge of how difficult or easy an MBA is to get but I know that some or perhaps the majority of Bachelor degrees are difficult and challenging. Perhaps my experience was different than most, as I went to College much later in life than most people. My degree (in a science field) was not easy or a gimmie. It required a lot of hard work to do well and learn what was required. Casting a wide net of derision on all undergraduate degrees is an immature attitude in my opinion.

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Old 09-19-2003, 03:43 PM
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Get over yourself.
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Old 09-19-2003, 10:11 PM
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Does your response prove my point?

Beyond that I will let it be. You have your opinion and I have mine.

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Old 09-19-2003, 04:24 PM
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I believe, sir, that the accepted spelling of the word is:

G-I-M-M-E.

Degree, indeed!
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