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Old 06-05-2005, 06:42 AM
Clarkmeister Clarkmeister is offline
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Default The Best Value Bet in History

5 handed game, two very good players who both know the other can play. SB raises with QJo, BB calls.

SB bets the flop dark, BB calls dark.

Flop is QcJsTc

Turn is 7d. SB checks, BB checks.

River is a red K. SB bets, BB calls. SB declares "this is The Best Value Bet in History" and flips up his hand.

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Old 06-05-2005, 07:08 AM
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Default Re: The Best Value Bet in History

I really don't see how this could be the best value bet in history.
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Old 06-05-2005, 12:50 PM
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Default Re: The Best Value Bet in History

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I really don't see how this could be the best value bet in history.

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Especially since it was obvious to the other 3 players at the table that his hand was no good.

BB had 9T and HHWG.
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Old 06-05-2005, 02:20 PM
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Default Re: The Best Value Bet in History

Would a check-raise have worked?
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Old 06-05-2005, 02:22 PM
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Default Re: The Best Value Bet in History

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Would a check-raise have worked?

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Doubt it, but I think a bet on the turn would have worked. [img]/images/graemlins/smirk.gif[/img]


BTW, I wasn't in this hand.
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Old 06-05-2005, 03:01 PM
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Default Re: The Best Value Bet in History

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Would a check-raise have worked?

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Doubt it, but I think a bet on the turn would have worked. [img]/images/graemlins/smirk.gif[/img]


BTW, I wasn't in this hand.

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no way in hell is the bb folding Ts9s on a QJT7 board for a turn bet getting 4:1 w/ no rake and those outs with a player as bad as me willing to "value bet" a midde two pair hand when he hts his outs.

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Old 06-06-2005, 03:27 AM
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Default Re: The Best Value Bet in History

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I really don't see how this could be the best value bet in history.

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Especially since it was obvious to the other 3 players at the table that his hand was no good.

BB had 9T and HHWG.

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Where's the turn bet by the BB?

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Old 06-06-2005, 03:40 AM
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Default Re: The Best Value Bet in History

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I really don't see how this could be the best value bet in history.

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Especially since it was obvious to the other 3 players at the table that his hand was no good.

BB had 9T and HHWG.

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Where's the turn bet by the BB?

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These are good players playing $150-300. What does the BB gain by betting into a preflop raising SB on a QJT board when the SB unexpectedly checks the turn?
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Old 06-06-2005, 03:57 AM
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Default Re: The Best Value Bet in History

Being that the flop gave absolutely no info since it was all bet/called in the dark, I think many more hands will call the turn bet than if the flop was bet/called normally.

What is the BB thinking that the sb thinks he could have as far as how they've played up to that point? The BB could be representing a wide range of hands here. The sb is inducing a bet here.

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Old 06-05-2005, 11:44 AM
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Default Re: The Best Value Bet in History

No way, dude.

This is the best value bet in history.

http://www.tommyangelo.com/articles/the_ogre_and_me.htm
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