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River decision/am I committed?
This one is from a 22, and we are about 6 hands in. Im on the button with t700 and i look down to see 2 black aces. All fold to the hijack who open limps (has me covered). I make it 60 to play, the sb folds, the bb (has me covered) calls, as does the hijack.
Reads: Hijack is a calling station, and could be limping with any two here. BB: hasn't played a hand yet. flop (190) TcQdKc BB minbets t15, hijack calls, I call. Turn (235) Jh BB minbets, hijack calls, I raise to 250, bb calls, hijack folds. River (750) Td BB shoves. I have 350 behind. Comments on all streets appreciated, I think that I played it perfectly on all streets, except perhaps the river, which I am still unsure if I am pot commited or not. |
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Re: River decision/am I committed?
I would be raising the flop - too many draws out there and too much chance you already have the best hand anyway. Plus which it makes the shove on the turn much easier, then you don't have a difficult decision on the river.
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Re: River decision/am I committed?
I totally disagree with this line. If I raise and he shoves, I have to fold a hand that has a ton of cards that could improve my equity here. Playing post flop is fun.
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Re: River decision/am I committed?
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I totally disagree with this line. If I raise and he shoves, I have to fold a hand that has a ton of cards that could improve my equity here. Playing post flop is fun. [/ QUOTE ] You have 640 chips and the pot is 220 to you on the flop. There's no "playing post flop" here. Just get it in on the flop. All other options are worse. Irieguy |
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Re: River decision/am I committed?
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You have 640 chips and the pot is 220 to you on the flop. There's no "playing post flop" here. [/ QUOTE ] Bingo. |
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Re: River decision/am I committed?
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You have 640 chips and the pot is 220 to you on the flop. There's no "playing post flop" here. Just get it in on the flop. All other options are worse. [/ QUOTE ] Ditto. And when your flop flat-call results in your losing all your chips to a club flush? That's Sklansky's "mathematical catastrophe" hitting you in the face. |
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Re: River decision/am I committed?
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[ QUOTE ] You have 640 chips and the pot is 220 to you on the flop. There's no "playing post flop" here. Just get it in on the flop. All other options are worse. [/ QUOTE ] Ditto. And when your flop flat-call results in your losing all your chips to a club flush? That's Sklansky's "mathematical catastrophe" hitting you in the face. [/ QUOTE ] I had the ace of clubs so this doesn't really apply here. Shoving the flop was never really a thought in my mind for some reason, even though, now it is totally the obvious play to me. |
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Re: River decision/am I committed?
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I totally disagree with this line. If I raise and he shoves, I have to fold a hand that has a ton of cards that could improve my equity here. Playing post flop is fun. [/ QUOTE ] If you raise and he shoves, you fold? Really? I wouldn't. |
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Re: River decision/am I committed?
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[ QUOTE ] I totally disagree with this line. If I raise and he shoves, I have to fold a hand that has a ton of cards that could improve my equity here. Playing post flop is fun. [/ QUOTE ] If you raise and he shoves, you fold? Really? I wouldn't. [/ QUOTE ] on instinct alone, yes. after i am done with the current set that i am playing, i will do some math and report back. |
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Re: River decision/am I committed?
Well, in that case, as Irieguy says I'd just push the flop when it gets back to you, to stop that even being a possibility. It would be so easy for someone to bluff you off of the best hand (by some considerable distance) by pushing a draw, and you can't let that happen.
I make the decision that I'm going to the felt with this hand, and I think by raising less than all-in it gives my opponent the chance to push back on a bluff, with a hand he would likely fold to a push - whether this is good or not I don't know, as it comes under curtains' argument of being too greedy etc, it might just be best to take the t200 that is there already. |
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