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as poker players, we generally assume that what we are doing is correct and that what other people are doing is incorrect. as a player who goes by the guidelines instructed by these forums, i gauge my level of skill in comparison to other players when i see them doing things that the players here advise against. when i see a weak tight player, i may think that he might be a small winner, but i know that hes too tight and i will profit from having him in the game. when i see someone too loose i obviously think they are a fish.
what are weak-tight players thinking? are the guys who pack 10VPIPs saying to themselves that all the guys with 19VPIPs are just way too loose? or, is it that they are simply more rational than most poker players and know that they are not good enough to profit off playing with a 19VPIP, so they play within their limits? do they know that the 19VPIPs are better and are simply playing this tight because they think that they dont have the skills in order to profit from playing a game as loose as 19VPIPs do? |
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i always thought being weak-tight was more of a mentality than anything else, not so much based on how many hands you play.
weak-tight example: 2 limpers, hero raises w/KK, button coldcalls, blinds drop. flop: A 4 7 rainbow check, check, hero "knows somebody out there has the ace" and checks, button bets, call, fold, hero folds... weak. |
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thats the more interesting question
they cant honestly think they will win the hand ill never get it |
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Weak-tight players are always thinking about the NUTS. Either they have them or they assume the other player does and play/fold accordingly. The other thing they think about is the blinds/antes and how they are being eaten alive by same since they find so few hands and situations to play.
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Are you saying you started out playing Tight Aggressive poker right away? I thought almost all 2+2 er's started out playing weak tight (tight passive) and then eventually got more aggressive as they learned more.
Were you a LAG when you started out? |
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as poker players, we generally assume that what we are doing is correct and that what other people are doing is incorrect. as a player who goes by the guidelines instructed by these forums, i gauge my level of skill in comparison to other players when i see them doing things that the players here advise against. when i see a weak tight player, i may think that he might be a small winner, but i know that hes too tight and i will profit from having him in the game. when i see someone too loose i obviously think they are a fish. what are weak-tight players thinking? are the guys who pack 10VPIPs saying to themselves that all the guys with 19VPIPs are just way too loose? or, is it that they are simply more rational than most poker players and know that they are not good enough to profit off playing with a 19VPIP, so they play within their limits? do they know that the 19VPIPs are better and are simply playing this tight because they think that they dont have the skills in order to profit from playing a game as loose as 19VPIPs do? [/ QUOTE ] Are you equating a 10 percent vpip with weak tightness? |
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I am well qualified to answer this question.
<font color="blue">A weak-tight player is thinking...</font> "I have to pay 2 more BB to see that I am beat here. I am going to fold and save those bets." "I hate going to showdown and losing." "This opponent is a maniac. He is going to keep raising and this makes me uncomfortable. My hand is not close enough to the nuts..." "My hand is dominated." <font color="red">What a weak-tight player is NOT thinking...</font> "This is a big pot. I want this pot." "I may have the best hand here." "Let's build a pot here on the flop in case I hit my draw." "This bettor is loose. I am going to raise and isolate him." |
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<font color="blue">A weak-tight player is thinking...</font> "I have to pay 2 more BB to see that I am beat here. I am going to fold and save those bets." [/ QUOTE ] ummmm.......ok............ |
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Maybe they read Play Poker Like the Pros.
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