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Old 09-29-2005, 03:56 AM
llabb llabb is offline
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Default $55: Mystified. Do donks still do this in the 55\'s?

NL Texas Hold'em $50 Buy-in + $5
Level:2 Blinds(15/30)
Seat 4 is the button
Total number of players : 7
Seat 1: urgggh ( $840 )
Seat 2: virgin99 ( $2165 )
Seat 3: mikepal1970 ( $2140 )
Seat 4: Hero ( $885 )
Seat 5: BigFold111 ( $1025 )
Seat 6: centgas20 ( $905 )
Seat 10: oasisofaces ( $2040 )
Level:2
Blinds(15/30)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to Hero [ Kc Ad ]
oasisofaces folds.
urgggh folds.
virgin99 folds.
mikepal1970 folds.
Hero raises [90].
BigFold111 is all-In [1010]
centgas20 folds.

Hero??

Folded around to me on the button, standard raise, SB goes all-in on level 2?!
First thought: total donk.
Second thought: He assumes I'm stealing, how bad is his range of hands to do this with?
Third thought: Uh-oh, could this possibly be a Lorinda overbet with Aces or Kings?

Thoughts on the villain's hand and my move?
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Old 09-29-2005, 10:44 AM
unfrgvn unfrgvn is offline
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Default Re: $55: Mystified. Do donks still do this in the 55\'s?

He's got a little pair, 2's thru 7's or so. Caveat, I've only played 1 55 in my life, just guessing. I would fold, wait and see if you can catch him when you have an overpair.
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Old 09-29-2005, 11:37 AM
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Default Re: $55: Mystified. Do donks still do this in the 55\'s?

I'd need JJ to call here. I'd put him on 55-TT, AK-AJ, KQ. And yes, this is fairly frequent at the 55s, though not as much as at the lower limits.
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Old 09-29-2005, 02:52 PM
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Default Re: $55: Mystified. Do donks still do this in the 55\'s?

So you'd fold AK here with dead money in the pot and 58% equity against the range you have him on? Just checking...
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Old 09-29-2005, 03:09 PM
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Default Re: $55: Mystified. Do donks still do this in the 55\'s?

I wouldn't be surprised to see JJ. I've seen that hand played this way on all the levels ranging from $11s-$55s. Of course more prevalent in the $11s & $22s but I've seen it in a few of the higher SnGs.
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Old 09-29-2005, 03:15 PM
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Default Re: $55: Mystified. Do donks still do this in the 55\'s?

Yeah, I agree, that's why I included it in the range. JJ and AK are the two most likely hands that hero will be shown, IMO.
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Old 09-29-2005, 12:01 PM
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Default Re: $55: Mystified. Do donks still do this in the 55\'s?

AK is most likely imo

it makes sense because he doesn't want to put in a big rr then miss -- btw if he does have AK, i don't think this is that bad and with 700 or less i think it's best
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Old 09-29-2005, 01:19 PM
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Default Re: $55: Mystified. Do donks still do this in the 55\'s?

I fold this every time at level 2 with only 90 in the pot.

AK is too much of a drawing hand for my liking. This definitely smells like a mid pair to me. The steal with suited gaps doesn't make sense at level 2, AND, it could always be worse - the dreaded overbet with AA or KK.
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Old 09-29-2005, 01:26 PM
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Default Re: $55: Mystified. Do donks still do this in the 55\'s?

Auto call.
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Old 09-29-2005, 01:39 PM
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Default Re: $55: Mystified. Do donks still do this in the 55\'s?

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Auto call.

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really this is an autocall for you? what range do you put this guy on? do they really do this at the 55's with aq/aj/kq?? i guess there is also a 135 chip overlay so a low,mid pp is not necessarily the worst thing in the world. just curious what you would expect the villian to turn over here. i would have to expect ak/88-jj.
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