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Tough decision vs frappe
OK guys - what is your play on fourth? Seat 7 is Frappe.
7 Card Stud High ($5/$10), Ante $0.50, Bring-In $2 (converter) 3rd Street - (0.70 SB) Seat 1: xx xx J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]___folds Hero: 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]___calls Seat 4: xx xx T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]___folds Seat 5: xx xx 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]___calls Seat 6: xx xx 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]___brings-in___calls Seat 7: xx xx K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]___completes Seat 8: xx xx J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]___folds 4th Street - (4.70 SB) Hero: 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]___??? Seat 5: xx xx 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]___ Seat 6: xx xx 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]___ Seat 7: xx xx K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]___double bets |
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Re: Tough decision vs frappe
I think Frappe's raising standards are sufficiently wide here that you are justified in calling down and betting when checked to.
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Re: Tough decision vs frappe
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I think Frappe's raising standards are sufficiently wide here that you are justified in calling down and betting when checked to. [/ QUOTE ] Well my minimum hand here is pocket queens. So what are the odds that i have QQ or AA in the hole compared to a king in the hole... I suck at math. |
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Re: Tough decision vs frappe
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[ QUOTE ] I think Frappe's raising standards are sufficiently wide here that you are justified in calling down and betting when checked to. [/ QUOTE ] Well my minimum hand here is pocket queens. So what are the odds that i have QQ or AA in the hole compared to a king in the hole... I suck at math. [/ QUOTE ] Without doing any math I can assure you that there is enough chance that you have QQ/AA and don't improve combined with the chance that you have KKK and he sucks out to win. |
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Re: Tough decision vs frappe
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] I think Frappe's raising standards are sufficiently wide here that you are justified in calling down and betting when checked to. [/ QUOTE ] Well my minimum hand here is pocket queens. So what are the odds that i have QQ or AA in the hole compared to a king in the hole... I suck at math. [/ QUOTE ] Without doing any math I can assure you that there is enough chance that you have QQ/AA and don't improve combined with the chance that you have KKK and he sucks out to win. [/ QUOTE ] math, = on 4th 13 dead 39 live, 4 aces & 3 queens. AA=6 QQ=3 at least 1 king =75 (38+38-1 think this is right) 9 times ahead 75 times behind. 8.33-1 or .12% chance ahead 2dimes querry equity of 666 vs. the 2 overpair with same dead ~ 78.5% 2dimes querry equity of 666 vs. KKK7 ~22%(KKK2 was a few .001 dif) therefore equity equals .785 * .12 + .22* .88 = .194 Assuming we actually knew those where frappe's opening standards, with 4.7 smb in pot and 2smb to call this is a clear fold. |
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Re: Tough decision vs frappe
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math, = on 4th 13 dead 39 live, 4 aces & 3 queens. AA=6 QQ=3 at least 1 king =75 (38+38-1 think this is right) 9 times ahead 75 times behind. 8.33-1 or .12% chance ahead [/ QUOTE ] I'll have to think about this, but if this is right, then your calculations look correct. |
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Re: Tough decision vs frappe
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2dimes querry equity of 666 vs. KKK7 ~22%(KKK2 was a few .001 dif) therefore equity equals .785 * .12 + .22* .88 = .194 [/ QUOTE ] Uhm, no. If he has 22% equity against trip kings, how can he have LESS equity against the entire range. I did the calculation myself and got 28% average equity. Not sure what that means. Also, I think one usually has considerably more equity in this spot - the dead ten is the problem here. So I think this is probably a fold against Frappe, but only against Frappe or somebody with a similarly tight range and only because of the dead ten. As an aside, I think it’s interesting that he actually has MORE equity with a 4-flush here (around 35%). And with 7d8d6dTd he’s only a 45-55 dog. |
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Re: Tough decision vs frappe
Its a fold against frappeboy. |
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Its a fold against frappeboy. [/ QUOTE ] Wrong. |
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Re: Tough decision vs frappe
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[ QUOTE ] Its a fold against frappeboy. [/ QUOTE ] Wrong. [/ QUOTE ] Failing to acknowledge the fact that frappeboy is one of the biggest rock at 5/10 is ignoring information. |
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