QQ vs 3 opponents

Duerig · #1 05-25-2005, 11:44 PM

Alright people to respond to this post. This is a pretty standard hand (I think) but I'm sure I misplayed it. Both opponents were ~30% VPIP, were a bit too loose pf but I haven't seen either do anything extremely stupid yet.

Party Poker 1/2 Hold'em (9 max, 10 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is BB with Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
1 fold, UTG+1 calls, UTG+2 calls, 3 folds, CO calls, 2 folds, Hero raises, UTG+1 calls, UTG+2 folds, CO calls.

Flop: (7.50 SB) A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (3 players)
Hero bets, UTG+1 calls, CO calls.

Turn: (5.25 BB) T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (3 players)
Hero bets, UTG+1 calls, CO calls.

River: (8.25 BB) J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (3 players)
Hero checks, UTG+1 checks, CO bets, Hero calls, UTG+1 calls.

Final Pot: 11.25 BB

I have an idea of what I think I should have done, but I'll wait until some people reply. Thoughts?

topspin · #2 05-26-2005, 01:10 AM

The only question here is whether to bet/fold or check/call the river. Bet/fold is the default OOP in these sorts of situations and HU it's standard here, but against 2 callers I really can't see many worse hands calling on this board so I actually like the check/call. Might be overly weak though so I'll at least bump your thread for other comments.

NateDog · #3 05-26-2005, 01:15 AM

I'd c/c one back. I run into these a lot myself, and find MHIG more than I expect.

Firefly · #4 05-26-2005, 01:16 AM

I actually like the way you played it, but the river decision is pretty close. Can you fold to a raise?

More that I think about it, bet/fold the river, anything that raises the river has you beat.

kapw7 · #5 05-26-2005, 07:50 AM

Why on earth would you bet this river? Are you the favourite to have the best hand? Not at all. Do you expect any worse hands than yours to call? Not really (a pair of jacks maybe?) Do you expect better hands than yours i.e. pair of aces to fold? No. Does your position suck? Yes.

davelin · #6 05-26-2005, 10:54 AM

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Do you expect any worse hands than yours to call? Not really (a pair of jacks maybe?)

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A 5, a 2, a T, a J, a lower pocket pair.

Losfer · #7 05-26-2005, 11:23 AM

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Do you expect any worse hands than yours to call? Not really (a pair of jacks maybe?)

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A 5, a 2, a T, a J, a lower pocket pair.

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I'm confused....don't those aces beat QQ?

Sarge85 · #8 05-26-2005, 11:25 AM

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Do you expect any worse hands than yours to call? Not really (a pair of jacks maybe?)

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A 5, a 2, a T, a J, a lower pocket pair.

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I'm confused....don't those aces beat QQ?

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He's not saying Ace 5, he is saying A 5. as in ABC...

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Sarge85 · #9 05-26-2005, 11:24 AM

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Do you expect any worse hands than yours to call? Not really (a pair of jacks maybe?)

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A 5, a 2, a T, a J, a lower pocket pair.

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HU, perhaps, but 3 way, i don't think both have worse hands.

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Duerig · #10 05-26-2005, 10:51 AM

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Can you fold to a raise?

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Hell yes. In fact my thinking was that I should have given up on this hand earlier than I did. I think the river call was pretty bad, and possibly even the the turn bet. I tend to be way too tight though.