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Old 08-19-2005, 04:24 AM
Larimani Larimani is offline
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Default Stupid fish (bad beat post)

ARGHRGHG stupid fish.

yes, it's a bad beat post.

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em (NL$25) <font color="#0000FF">(6 handed)</font> link

CO ($21.65)
Hero ($24.40)
SB ($15.46)
BB ($46.45)
UTG ($38.57)
MP ($53.39)

Preflop: Hero is Button with Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
UTG calls $0.25, MP calls $0.25, <font color="#666666">1 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $1.50</font>, <font color="#CC3333">SB raises to $2.65</font>, BB calls $2.50, UTG calls $2.50, MP calls $2.50, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $6.50</font>, <font color="#CC3333">SB raises all-in ($12.71)</font>, <font color="#666666">1 folds</font>, UTG calls $12.71, <font color="#666666">1 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises all-in ($16.40)</font>, UTG calls $8.94.

Flop: ($69.76) 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players, 2 all-in)</font>

Turn: ($69.76) J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players, 2 all-in)</font>

River: ($69.76) 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players, 2 all-in)</font>

Final Pot: $69.76.
Results in white below:<font color="#FFFFFF">
Hero has Qs Ah (a pair of sixes.)
SB has Tc Jc (two pairs, jacks and sixes.)
UTG has Ts 8s (two pairs, eights and sixes.)
UTG wins $17.88.
SB wins $49.88.
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Old 08-19-2005, 04:27 AM
wtfsvi wtfsvi is offline
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Default Re: Stupid fish (bad beat post)

Stupid fish indeed.

You should be happy though, not sad. Because you know their screennames.
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Old 08-19-2005, 04:38 AM
BZ_Zorro BZ_Zorro is offline
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Default Re: Stupid fish (bad beat post)

Stop beating up on yourself, everyone makes mistakes from time to time.
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Old 08-19-2005, 04:44 AM
BZ_Zorro BZ_Zorro is offline
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Default Re: Stupid fish (bad beat post)

You didn't even have a 50% chance of winning:

Hand 1: 46.7502 % { AhQs }
Hand 2: 31.3740 % { JcTc }
Hand 3: 21.8758 % { Ts8s }
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Old 08-19-2005, 04:47 AM
Larimani Larimani is offline
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Default Re: Stupid fish (bad beat post)

incorrect. i lost the main pot AND the side pot.
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Old 08-19-2005, 02:59 PM
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Default Re: Stupid fish (bad beat post)

[ QUOTE ]
You didn't even have a 50% chance of winning:

Hand 1: 46.7502 % { AhQs }
Hand 2: 31.3740 % { JcTc }
Hand 3: 21.8758 % { Ts8s }

[/ QUOTE ]


And your point is?

Don't get me wrong. I think OP is crap.
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Old 08-19-2005, 03:36 PM
BZ_Zorro BZ_Zorro is offline
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Default Re: Stupid fish (bad beat post)

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And your point is?

[/ QUOTE ]
My point, sir, is that as a bad beat post, this sucks. Here's one with AQ that doesn't suck, so you can see the difference:

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (10 handed) converter

UTG+1 ($28.90)
Hero ($25)
MP1 ($26.25)
MP2 ($39.45)
MP3 ($9.75)
CO ($22.61)
Button ($22.35)
SB ($101.48)
BB ($7.47)
UTG ($8.72)

Preflop: Hero is UTG+2 with A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]. SB posts a blind of $0.10.
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $1</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP2 calls $1, MP3 calls $1, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Button calls $1, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>.

Flop: ($4.35) 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
Hero checks, MP2 checks, MP3 checks, <font color="#CC3333">Button bets $2</font>, Hero calls $2, MP2 calls $2, MP3 folds.

Turn: ($10.35) 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
Hero checks, MP2 checks, <font color="#CC3333">Button bets $4</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $9</font>, MP2 folds, Button calls $15.35 (All-In), Hero calls $10.35.

River: ($49.05) 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players, 1 all-in)</font>

Final Pot: $49.05

Hero has Ah Qd (high card, ace).
Button has 7s 8s (straight, nine high).
Outcome: Button wins $49.05.


This has all the elements of an epic bad beat: a great read, a masterful check/raise, a frustrated push by a frustrated villain, a heroic call, and finally, tragedy on the river. I hope OP is taking note.

If he just wanted to point out how stupid the fish are at Party, this is a much better example:

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ Hero (10 handed) converter

Hero ($27.85)
UTG ($25)
UTG+1 ($23.55)
UTG+2 ($25)
MP1 ($26.63)
MP2 ($8.35)
MP3 ($130.68)
CO ($40.21)
Button ($4.20)
SB ($28.30)

Preflop: Hero is BB with K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]. SB posts a blind of $0.10.
UTG calls $0.25, UTG+1 calls $0.25, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+2 raises to $0.5</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP1 raises to $2</font>, MP2 calls $2, MP3 calls $2, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $8.1</font>, UTG calls $8.10, UTG+1 folds, UTG+2 calls $7.85, MP1 calls $24.63 (All-In), MP2 calls $6.35 (All-In), MP3 folds, Hero calls $19.50 (All-In), UTG calls $16.65 (All-In), UTG+2 calls $16.65 (All-In).

Flop: ($115.18) 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(5 players, 5 all-in)</font>

Turn: ($115.18) 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(5 players, 5 all-in)</font>

River: ($115.18) A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(5 players, 5 all-in)</font>

Final Pot: $115.18

Results
Hero has Kd Kh (one pair, kings).
UTG has Ks As (one pair, aces).
UTG+2 has Ts Ac (two pair, aces and tens).
MP1 has Jd Js (one pair, jacks).
MP2 has 7h Jc (one pair, sevens).
Outcome: UTG+2 wins $110.60. Hero wins $4.21.

OP: Please take note.

P.S. If anyone wants to give me sympathy, feel free.
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Old 08-19-2005, 03:42 PM
Larimani Larimani is offline
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[ QUOTE ]
Hero has Kd Kh (one pair, kings).
UTG has Ks As (one pair, aces).
UTG+2 has Ts Ac (two pair, aces and tens).
MP1 has Jd Js (one pair, jacks).
MP2 has 7h Jc (one pair, sevens).
Outcome: UTG+2 wins $110.60. Hero wins $4.21.


[/ QUOTE ]

Harsh.
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Old 08-19-2005, 04:13 PM
IamLeach IamLeach is offline
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Default Re: Stupid fish (bad beat post)

Wow Zorro, i feel bad for you on that second hand but i still laughed my ass off.
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Old 08-19-2005, 05:55 PM
Miles Ahead Miles Ahead is offline
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Default Re: Stupid fish (bad beat post)

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This has all the elements of an epic bad beat

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Does it really or was this sarcasm (if sarcasm, you can ignore the rest)?

Your villain had a double belly buster on the flop, holding 87, with J95 on the board (needing a 6 or a 10). Obviously his decision to bet the draw for value on the flop wasn't necessarily bad, and worked to perfection when you and MP2 just called. On the turn your CR was kind of weak -- it put $23.35 in the pot on the turn when the action was back to him to call the paltry sum of $5. With implied odds it was close enough to call. I think moving all-in was a little strange, but until then he played his draw OK, no?
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