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Old 01-11-2005, 07:16 AM
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Default If a earthquake/hurricane devastated Nazi Germany, would you send aid?

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Old 01-11-2005, 07:35 AM
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Default Re: If a hurricane devastated Nazi Germany, would you send aid?

I'll take a stab at it.

The Author states that in the "old days" there was a distinct difference between "good" and "bad" and that people had a "good working moral compass".

She then goes on to criticize the Muslims for wanting Women to confirm to local custom and wear Muslim garb even when they are in their country giving out aid.

I guess she fails to see that the Muslims also have a distinct code of "good" and "bad". It seems women not dressed appropriately is "bad". They also have a "good working moral compass" and will even go so far as to not accept aid from women who are dressed "bad".

So for this, we should comdemn the entire regions and those countries, because their definitions of "good" and "bad" don't match ours.

I think the article also makes mention that we should make sure and punish all prisioners, even if some are innocent, to make sure that no guilty escape punishment. Kind of the opposite argument to the anti-death penality crowd, who think no prisoner should be executed least we mistakenly execute an innocent man.

The author also threw in that all German citizens should have been punished, since the country did evil, and as citizens they were all guilty.

Kind of scary if that same collective guilt were to be wrapped around American citizens, considering the gang of thugs currently in office.

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Old 01-11-2005, 07:44 AM
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Default Re: If a hurricane devastated Nazi Germany, would you send aid?

I don't think the wearing of clothes (head scarves) was the big issue of the article. Did you miss these:

Muslims would rather be dead than touched by a Jew.

Sexual slavery,

slavery,

torture,

forced sexual mutilation,

mass serial murder of Christians,

forced conversion of Christians,

genocide of Christians,

government-sanctioned 'Crimes Against Humanity.'

allows children to be abducted and used as soldiers,

practice apartheid based upon caste discrimination (which also includes slavery,

debt bondage and sexual slavery and abuse),

Persecution of Burmese people,

child sexual enslavement,

slavery (forced labor),

rape of ethnic minority women and children,

sexual slavery and debt bondage.
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Old 01-11-2005, 08:01 AM
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Default hmmmmm.....

Number 3 on your list was torture. Aren't we in favor of that?

How many of those things are current practice, and how many are historical events? As a citizen of a "Christian" Nation, should disaster aid be denied to me because of the atrocities committed by "Christians" during the crusades?

And for some of the other items on your list:

We should deny aid to the discriminated lower caste members, and those children raped and sold into slavery, because they are responsible for helping perpetuate the caste system, child rape, and slavery. Right?

And the children forced into miltary service -- No Aid for you.

Raped ethnic minority women and children -- No Aid for you.

etc., etc. -- No Aid for you.

Ahhhh!!! I see the light. We just need to appoint this woman as Aid Nazi, much like the Seinfield Soup Nazi. Then only people with a faulty moral compass, willing to discard their notions of "good" and "bad" will conform and receive aid. The rest can be punished for their "sins".
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Old 01-11-2005, 08:12 AM
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Default Re: hmmmmm.....

By the same logic, we must release 10 convicted rapists because one might be innocent. The fact that other people will be raped by the released rapists means such an act will spread misery further. Better to keep the unfortunate innocent man in jail than create multiple new victims.

If we support evil practices in these countries, we are helping create future victims there too.
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Old 01-11-2005, 08:16 AM
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Default Re: hmmmmm.....

"By the same logic, we must release 10 convicted rapists because one might be innocent. "

Er, no. Individual criminal cases can be treated individually.
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Old 01-11-2005, 08:17 AM
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Default Re: hmmmmm.....

Actually that is almost an exact quote from someone.
Better to let 10 guilty go free than punish an innocent man.

Kind of part of the foundation of "innocent until proven guilty". Sounds better than "kill them all, some of them must be guilty".
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Old 01-12-2005, 02:35 AM
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Default Re: hmmmmm.....

You are right. After taking Philosophy of Law 210, i learned that laws are made for their value, not their purpose! This is the basis for constitutional law!

For example, we could catch more pedophile pornography if we illegaly searched every home, however, our constitutional rights would be evaded. As a result, we will only search based on an approriate code of conduct that respects the constitution and, therefore, catch less criminals. This is the case because our laws are made for theirr value, not their purpose.

Similarily, the enforcement of laws should be respected for value, not their purpose. Their purpose is to convict the guilty and not the innocent. Their value is the prevention of further crimes. Consequentially, we gain more by respecting the value.

Some may say that constitutionally every person has rights and one innocent man isn't worth a thousand guilty, and blah, blah.. But you cannot argue the value or consquential benefit, on a cost-benefit scale, when compared to just locking that one innocent man up. Maybe this just an an opinion though.
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Old 01-11-2005, 03:37 PM
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Default Re: If a hurricane devastated Nazi Germany, would you send aid?

So basicly what you are saying is that we should just let the people on the coasts Indonesia, Sri Lanka and Thailand die of starvation and disease because some people in those countries or their governments are doing things we consider evil. You gotta love Christian charity.
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Old 01-11-2005, 07:50 AM
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Default Re: If a hurricane devastated Nazi Germany, would you send aid?

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The author also threw in that all German citizens should have been punished, since the country did evil, and as citizens they were all guilty.


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The author did not say this. I'll let you read it again.
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