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#1
05-15-2005, 05:09 PM
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$20+2 Getting frisky with JJ in level 1
No reads on anyone.
Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t15 (10 handed) converter BB (t800) UTG (t800) Hero (t800) UTG+2 (t800) MP1 (t890) MP2 (t800) MP3 (t800) CO (t800) Button (t790) SB (t720) Preflop: Hero is UTG+1 with J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]. UTG calls t15, Hero calls t15, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP1 raises to t65</font>, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, Button calls t65, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, BB calls t50, UTG calls t50, Hero calls t50. Flop: (t332.50) 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(5 players)</font> <font color="#CC3333">BB bets t150</font>, UTG folds, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t300</font>, MP1 folds, Button folds, BB calls t150. Turn: (t932.50) 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> BB checks, Hero goes all-in [t435] Comments on all streets would be appreciated, especially pre-flop and flop. 
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#7
05-15-2005, 05:15 PM
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Re: $20+2 Getting frisky with JJ in level 1
PRE-FLOP
Raise. Limp-call is not good play. Jacks are tricky but still a premium hand. Not good enough to limp-reraise and why risk some crappy overcard in the blinds beat you? Define your hand. AFTER THE FLOP Minimum raise? I don't like it. A real raise will put you all-in? Fine. Push. Let him make the tough decision. I doubt he has a set if he only called your raise instead of going over the top. TURN Yeah. Pretty much. EDIT: I'll bet he was either open-ended or had two overcards.
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#8
05-15-2005, 05:48 PM
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Re: $20+2 Getting frisky with JJ in level 1
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PRE-FLOP Raise. Limp-call is not good play. Jacks are tricky but still a premium hand. Not good enough to limp-reraise and why risk some crappy overcard in the blinds beat you? Define your hand. [/ QUOTE ] Limping with JJ/TT from EP is a pretty accepted line early in a SNG. You don't want to have to deal with a re-raise preflop. [ QUOTE ] AFTER THE FLOP Minimum raise? I don't like it. A real raise will put you all-in? Fine. Push. Let him make the tough decision. I doubt he has a set if he only called your raise instead of going over the top. [/ QUOTE ] At this point in the hand, I'm confident I have the best hand, and if not I'm going broke. I don't like the min-raise only becasue I hate min-raises but I think making it 350 or 400 would be fine. [ QUOTE ] TURN Yeah. Pretty much. [/ QUOTE ] yeah [ QUOTE ] EDIT: I'll bet he was either open-ended or had two overcards. [/ QUOTE ] This is a terrible read.
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#9
05-15-2005, 06:00 PM
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Re: $20+2 Getting frisky with JJ in level 1
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Limping with JJ/TT from EP is a pretty accepted line early in a SNG. You don't want to have to deal with a re-raise preflop. [/ QUOTE ]Yeah you do. You define your hand, let villain do the same. A raise could be a lot of things, a reraise says you are probably behind. Nothing wrong with raise-fold or raise-call-and-be-careful if you don't hit a set. Beats limp-call in terms of gathering information. You don't want to get married to them? Fine. This is a good way to avoid that. [ QUOTE ] At this point in the hand, I'm confident I have the best hand, and if not I'm going broke. I don't like the min-raise only becasue I hate min-raises but I think making it 350 or 400 would be... [/ QUOTE ] If you're going to be commited, and that bet would pretty much do that, may as well push. Makes a tougher decision for villain. [ QUOTE ] This is a terrible read. [/ QUOTE ]Not if the player was bad and I see a lot of that. Why the call of the min-raise? A set should go all-in there and he only called. He's not slow-playing it or he wouldn't have led the betting there. He's fishing for something. Or maybe he has top pair and is nervous. But a $150 bet-call there is a strange play all around.
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#10
05-15-2005, 06:04 PM
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Re: $20+2 Getting frisky with JJ in level 1
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Yeah you do. You define your hand, let villain do the same. A raise could be a lot of thing, a reraise says you are probably behind. Nothing wrong with raise-fold or raise-call and be careful if you don't hit a set. Beats limp-call in terms of gathering information. [/ QUOTE ] Raising to gain information is one of the most overrated and overused plays in hold'em IMO (and in SnGs with small stacks it's an even worse idea). Especially if it is against players you never encountered before.
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