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If it isn't it, I think it probably should be. The question is: Is Cooker right when he posted on another thread
"Many people live under the mistaken belief that being correct is advantagous. This may or may not be the case. I think it is very possible, that certain incorrect views might have an advantage." My answer is an in between one which I will get into later. What's yours? PS We are not talking here about obvious occasional short term benefits of incorrect thoughts. |
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Anyone who is or has ever been married knows that the answer is: it is not an advantage to be correct.
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I presume you mean views which are unknowingly incorrect rather than maintaining the truth of a known falsehood for some psychological or manipulative reason. The only advantage that could accrue from an incorrect view is one which would lead one to pursue an action that had a beneficial result but which action would not have been taken were the truth known. The only such advantage I personally have experienced is misreading an opponent's hand on an early street and calling an allin bet with insufficient pot odds but sucking out on the river.
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"Many people live under the mistaken belief that being correct is advantagous. This may or may not be the case. I think it is very possible, that certain incorrect views might have an advantage." [/ QUOTE ] Depends entirely on your goals and your means. In the long run, being correct (and thus, by definition, more in touch with objective reality), is a good thing in general. But there are plenty of examples where being incorrect has been very advantageous. |
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It seems obvious that some people have better lives for being religous and this is independant of the truth of their beliefs.
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It seems obvious that some people have better lives for being religous and this is independant of the truth of their beliefs. [/ QUOTE ] And the reverse: It seems obvious that some people have better lives for NOT being religous and this is independant of the truth of their beliefs. MidGe -- "Our human race is affected with a chronic underestimation of the possibility of the future straying from the course initially envisioned" - Nassim Nicholas Taleb |
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It seems obvious that some people have better lives for being religous and this is independant of the truth of their beliefs. chez [/ QUOTE ] i concur. many forms of optimism about life are beneficial to the user regardless of how anchored their beliefs are in reality. as humans evolved, being oblivious to certain aspects of reality was most likely advantagous to survival. |
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I think in terms of relationships and personal politics, some self deception helps society function more smoothly.
Case in point, some studies suggest that 1/5 of children of a married couple are not the husbands. |
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Define "correct", then we may be able to have a meaningful discussion.
Edit: After re-reading the OP, we will need to agree on definitions for both "correct" and "advantagous". If I define "advantagous" as "that which is conductive to my goals" and "correct" as "the most accurate depiction of reality" then it follows that the more correct I am, the better I can achieve my goals. As I said, without agreeing upon a defition of advantage, we can't have much of a debate. Certain incorrect views may very well give a person an advantage in being happy, reproducing, any number of things that humans tend to value. |
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Define "correct", then we may be able to have a meaningful discussion. Edit: After re-reading the OP, we will need to agree on definitions for both "correct" and "advantagous". [/ QUOTE ] I was going to write a reply about this exact thing, but I reskimmed the thread to make sure it hadn't already be said, and there it was.... David's question is flawed (I realize he's quoting someone else, but for the purposes of this thread, it's his) because of the nature of 'advantage'. The obvious question is then, "advantageous to what end?" It looks like, given the last bit of his post, he is not interested in 'local advantages' - specific circumstances related to individual events - but some sort of overall, objective advantage, where it's not clear at all what that entails, if anything meaningful at all. I'm a bit disappointed in David here. I disagree with you slightly on the importance of defining 'correct'. Yes, there is some fuzziness, but for the purposes of this thread, I think it's pretty clear. [ QUOTE ] If I define "advantagous" as "that which is conductive to my goals" and "correct" as "the most accurate depiction of reality" then it follows that the more correct I am, the better I can achieve my goals. [/ QUOTE ] That doesn't follow at all. It is not an inherent property of 'correctness' that it helps you achieve your goals. You're just assuming your conclusion. |
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