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10/20 6max: a poorly played hand - QJo
Villain is a TAG. We've played together for about a half an hour, not much has stood out.
Party Poker 10/20 Hold'em (6 max, 6 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx Preflop: Hero is Button with Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]. <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">CO raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, CO calls. Flop: (7.50 SB) K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> CO checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, CO calls. Turn: (4.75 BB) 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> <font color="#CC3333">CO bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, CO calls. River: (8.75 BB) 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> CO checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font> Surf |
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Re: 10/20 6max: a poorly played hand - QJo
the turn raise is not standard(edit, its bad he probably isn't c/c b/f too often.) but i dont think its terrible if this guy knows how to fold.
Im checking the river tho. You need to be putting him on A6 or A8 here to be betting the river. He calls to often with any pair and if he called the turn with a better no pair hand he might call a river bet. |
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Re: 10/20 6max: a poorly played hand - QJo
fold preflop
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Re: 10/20 6max: a poorly played hand - QJo
probably a good idea as well
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Re: 10/20 6max: a poorly played hand - QJo
dont 3bet these hands against a tag if you are going to sprew all over him. [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]
really i dont see the reason for the turn raise i dont think hes folding after he donks. after youve gotten yourself into this predicament tho i do like the river follow through. |
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Re: 10/20 6max: a poorly played hand - QJo
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dont 3bet these hands against a tag if you are going to sprew all over him. [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img] [/ QUOTE ] My thoughts exactly. This, by default, is a fold for me. He was raising very light on CO/Button though. [ QUOTE ] really i dont see the reason for the turn raise i dont think hes folding after he donks. after youve gotten yourself into this predicament tho i do like the river follow through. [/ QUOTE ] The table broke after this hand and we talked about it for a bit. He said he's calling a river bet after he calls the turn raise 100% of the time. I thought it was the opposite, that he'd expect me to check behind worse hands and bet better ones. Ah well. He also said "You've been raising me with air all day" which I thought was interesting. I'm making a conscious effort to engender this type of image, but I didn't realize I had done such a good job. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] I've got to stop this type of stuff though if i'm going for a maniacal image...or maybe this kind of stuff is why they think i'm LAG? Surf |
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Re: 10/20 6max: a poorly played hand - QJo
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The table broke after this hand and we talked about it for a bit. He said he's calling a river bet after he calls the turn raise 100% of the time. I thought it was the opposite, that he'd expect me to check behind worse hands and bet better ones. Ah well. He also said "You've been raising me with air all day" which I thought was interesting. I'm making a conscious effort to engender this type of image, but I didn't realize I had done such a good job. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] Surf [/ QUOTE ] FWIW, I actually had 66. I didn't think much of your pf 3-bet. I was going to checkraise the turn, as I thought I was ahead quite often and that there was a small chance of you folding a better hand, but decided I didn't want to call a possible 3-bet to draw for my turned OESD. I did believe your turn raise meant I was likely behind, but the pot's growing and I seem to recall you showning down some rather weak hands at the other table (although, not against me specifically). |
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Re: 10/20 6max: a poorly played hand - QJo
fold preflop.
fold turn. you dont have to win every hand. |
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Re: 10/20 6max: a poorly played hand - QJo
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you dont have to win every hand. [/ QUOTE ] I'm going to make a plaque with this engraved on it and put it on top of my monitor. [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img] Surf |
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Re: 10/20 6max: a poorly played hand - QJo
the raising preflop is certainly questionable but i didnt comment on it cause it could be right. either way im glad to see that youre opening up your 3betting standards even if its by slightly too much. i think 3betting QJo in that spot can sometimes be a good play and im trying to impliment such moves in my game, but QJo is stretching it by a little bit too much i think. if im going to 3bet this its because hes going to fold Ax on the flop or turn unimproved almost always.
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