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My first post
Hi Everyone!
First of all you guys have to excuse my poor english. Im a stupid swedish and im a terrible speller [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img] To the hand i hope u guys can help me w... a 10 handed PP game 3/6 2 limpers to me Im the mp1 w A [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]Q [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] everyone folds to the button who calls me and the 2 limpers also call the flop is: A [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]J [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]2 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 2 limpers check to me and i bet of course. Button raises! 2 limpers fold back to me. Well now i have a decision call or raise, fold isnt an option imo and the hands i could loose against is AA JJ 22 AJ and J2 but i dont think hes playing J2 after a raise. AJ and 22 is the most possible. i decided to call Turn: 8 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] In my mind this cant have helped him so i bet and he raise again. I call. The river: 5 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] also a blank in my mind but i check seens he has shown aggression before. He bet and i call. Pot size 10BB should i reraise the flop or the turn? how about the river check/call? |
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Re: My first post
Do you have a read on the Button?
I would 3-bet the flop. If I did call like you did, I would checkraise the turn. |
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Re: My first post
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Do you have a read on the Button? I would 3-bet the flop. If I did call like you did, I would checkraise the turn. [/ QUOTE ] Why checkraise the turn here rather than call down? It's costing the same amount of money, and will often fold out worse hands. |
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Re: My first post
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[ QUOTE ] Do you have a read on the Button? I would 3-bet the flop. If I did call like you did, I would checkraise the turn. [/ QUOTE ] Why checkraise the turn here rather than call down? It's costing the same amount of money, and will often fold out worse hands. [/ QUOTE ] I said this before he gave a read on the player as tight. However, against a typical donk at 3/6 who cold-called your raise pre-flop, is it a big error to check-raise this turn heads up if I think I have the best hand and he'll pay off with worse aces? |
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Re: My first post
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I would checkraise the turn. [/ QUOTE ] I HATE this. What if you are 3-bet? I am showing this down, and I want to do so cheaply. |
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Re: My first post
Why do you have to show this down? Is the guy a total guppy? Do we have any reason to think that? If he has A-K you were buried the whole way, if he has A-J you are killed also. I think that this should be 3-bet on the flop and if he caps I think you can fold. There are very few hands that would cap here that you can beat.
Sorry, I would call one bet if he capped looking for a Q on the turn, but if he bet again I think a good player finds a fold here. |
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Re: My first post
agaist average PP player this is a showdownhand. ppl often like to bet and raise regardless of their kicker. he could have like A10 or like a jack.
If i had a jack in his spott i would probly rais to to get the blinds out. |
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Re: My first post
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Why do you have to show this down? [/ QUOTE ] Because we have TPQK against an unknown. [ QUOTE ] If he has A-K you were buried the whole way [/ QUOTE ] Obviously, but we don't KNOW that. Retards at 3/6 do this with AT-Axs ALL THE TIME. How does c/r'ing the turn help us here? We put in 2 bb's. Calling down costs us the same, AND lets us table our hand, which may very well be good or ocassionally chopping. [ QUOTE ] I would call one bet if he capped looking for a Q on the turn, but if he bet again I think a good player finds a fold here. [/ QUOTE ] This is bad. If you are convinced you need a Q to take the lead, this is a fold as you are not getting odds to draw to a Q. |
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Re: My first post
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This is bad. If you are convinced you need a Q to take the lead, this is a fold as you are not getting odds to draw to a Q. [/ QUOTE ] I don't think so. 3-betting a flop and folding to a cap is pretty bad for your image. If I took this line I'd call a cap and fold the turn UI. As it is, in this hand, I'd fold to the turn raise, because against an unknown, my default theory is that turn raises can usually beat one pair. At worst this is AK. |
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Re: My first post
Dunno:
First, welcome to the 2+2 forum! Second, you'll probably want to start off in the microlimit forum as that is for games 1/2 and lower. Also, it's a great place to get used to all the acronyms used here and so forth. |
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