I have applied Paul Phillips advice but am still sucking

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Repeatedly applying a 60/40 edge would make you one of the top players in tournament poker.


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I started playing MTTs 3 months ago after doing all the preliminary reading of HOH, this forum, etc. I've played probably 100 or so MTTs since.

It never fails. I get knocked out (often early) when I push pf (on a reraise) with AA/KK against 1 to 3 donkeys. Reviewing all the times I've busted out, approximately 90% of the time I have more than a 60/40 edge.

Should I play more post-flop?

Trying really hard to stay away from results oriented thinking but the dollars lost from buy ins are starting to add up.

[zambonidrivr]

just keep grinding man. i used to be the same way. this week i have won 3 MTT's cashing over $20K.

GL

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just keep grinding man. i used to be the same way. this week i have won 3 MTT's cashing over $20K.

GL

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nice. will do.

[illegit]

My first to advice to look far, far beyond just your bustout hands and analyze your game as a whole. Just because you got in with the best of it every time you go out does not mean you're playing perfect. I mean, to take an exaggerated hypothetical, what if you you were folding every hand you got until you picked up AA, at which point you had been blinded down to only having 2 BBs left? And now you re-raise all-in. Of course you'll have the best of it. Does that mean you played perfect? Not at all. You played terribly.

Now I'm sure that's probably not happening with you, but the point is if there are leaks in your game it's probably things that happen before you "get in with the best of it" and get unlucky. Either that or you're playing fine and being too results-oriented.

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My first to advice to look far, far beyond just your bustout hands and analyze your game as a whole. Just because you got in with the best of it every time you go out does not mean you're playing perfect. I mean, to take an exaggerated hypothetical, what if you you were folding every hand you got until you picked up AA, at which point you had been blinded down to only having 2 BBs left? And now you re-raise all-in. Of course you'll have the best of it. Does that mean you played perfect? Not at all. You played terribly.

Now I'm sure that's probably not happening with you, but the point is if there are leaks in your game it's probably things that happen before you "get in with the best of it" and get unlucky. Either that or you're playing fine and being too results-oriented.

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I'm not a survivalist. And I play more than premium hands -I steal, try to get people one-on-one, do cont bets, etc. So I usually have a good size stack from my post-flop play. When I bust out, it's not when I have a low M. It's a) early in tournament, when everyone has roughly same stack and b) middle/deep in tourney when I push against a bigger stack, even though I have the edge.

A big chunck of my bustouts are when I am a mid stack (and there are about say 200 people left out of 2,000) and I push AA/KK against a bigger stack.

Any benefit to playing more post-flop with premium pairs against a big stack?

[locutus2002]

There's probably some problems in your game.

Play deeper stack tournament structures (more forgiving of mistakes)

Play smaller fields, easier to make final table (this will reduce variance in outcomes). In an 60 player field, an average player will make the final table 18% of the time (not the cash).

Review all the hands you won or lost 10% of your chips.

Good points. I play the $10+1 and the $40k guaranteed on Party: so over 2,000 people. And stacks are 1,000.

I think I'll take your advice and move up to $50+5 or the $100+9 tourneys. PS deep stack is tempting but I can't imagine playing for 10 hours or whatever it is.

[locutus2002]

I don't play the $50 or the $100 regularly.

I'd move off party (temporarily) because the stacks are too short and the fields are too big.

I'd drop down to $10 or below. Look at Bugsysclub or UB, pokerroom etc. (the smaller sites)

[2Fast2Furious]

don't know about you, but playing the $11 MTTs on Party can take forever to make it in the money - I played 5 hours last week and ended up 53rd and still only made like $25 so time/reward just isnt' there - I'd suggest maybe playing the smaller tournies

[bruce]

If you have an average stack and push four times in a row when you are a 4:1 favorite against a similar sized stack you will eventually go broke unless you're lucky.

My results took off exponentially once I figured out that I
needed to accumulate a bigger stack to sustain bad beats.
If your stack is twice as big as the other persons and you win you first 4:1 shot your chip stack even if you lose a hand will continue to grow because you had more chips to begin with. Now if it were only that simple.

Bruce