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Limp-Reaise followed by Limp-cap!
A nice loose-passive table suddenly went mad! bit lost on the flop here, pretty sure theres at least one big PP out there, so overcard outs are probably no good, so I give myself 3 outs for the backdoor posibilities
BB is loose, bordeline maniac (80/20) MP1 is new to table, so unknown Cryptologic 0.25/0.50 Hold'em <font color="#0000FF">(9 handed)</font> link Preflop: Hero is SB with K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]. UTG calls, <font color="#666666">1 folds</font>, UTG+2 checks, MP1 calls, <font color="#666666">1 folds</font>, MP3 calls, CO checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, BB calls, UTG calls, UTG+2 calls, <font color="#CC3333">MP1 3-bets</font>, MP3 calls, CO calls, Hero calls, <font color="#CC3333">BB caps</font>, UTG calls, UTG+2 calls, MP1 calls, MP3 calls, CO calls, Hero calls. Flop: (28.00 SB) 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(7 players)</font> Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">BB bets</font>, UTG calls, UTG+2 calls, MP1 calls, MP3 calls, CO calls, Hero calls. Turn: (17.50 BB) J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(7 players)</font> Hero checks, BB checks, UTG checks, UTG+2 folds, MP1 checks, MP3 checks, CO checks. River: (17.50 BB) A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(6 players)</font> <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, BB folds, UTG calls, <font color="#CC3333">MP1 raises</font>, MP3 folds, <font color="#CC3333">CO 3-bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero caps</font>, UTG folds, MP1 calls, CO calls. Final Pot: 30.50 BB. |
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Re: Limp-Reaise followed by Limp-cap!
Don't we have enough equity to bet the turn here?
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Re: Limp-Reaise followed by Limp-cap!
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Don't we have enough equity to bet the turn here? [/ QUOTE ] I was expecting BB to bet again for me and didn't want to face them all with 2 cold. Mat |
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Re: Limp-Reaise followed by Limp-cap!
ok, but wouldn't knocking out some players if he does raise you be ok too?
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Re: Limp-Reaise followed by Limp-cap!
does anyone bet this flop, figuring BB will raise and protect our overcards?
You should toss in some value bets on this turn--you have lots of outs to a straight or flush here, and will win a lot. |
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Re: Limp-Reaise followed by Limp-cap!
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does anyone bet this flop, figuring BB will raise and protect our overcards? [/ QUOTE ] I don't. Even if villain raises, the likelihood of BB folding out anyone holding a hand that bothers us (AK/AQ) is incredibly remote. There's no way any one pair hands are folding in this gigantic pot. [ QUOTE ] You should toss in some value bets on this turn--you have lots of outs to a straight or flush here, and will win a lot. [/ QUOTE ] With the aggressor on the flop acting immediately after hero, checking is better. If villain bets and a bunch of people call, then a check-raise would do well. If hero bets and villain raises, then hero is sad because everyone gets shut out of the pot. |
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Re: Limp-Reaise followed by Limp-cap!
Agreed. Our overcards are as clean as they're going to be.
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Re: Limp-Reaise followed by Limp-cap!
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Agreed. Our overcards are as clean as they're going to be. [/ QUOTE ] On the turn? Who's cleaning up overcards? You're value-betting a nut OESD/2nd nut (possible nut) FD into 6 opponents. 15 outs, you only need 2 to call BB's possible raise. |
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Re: Limp-Reaise followed by Limp-cap!
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If hero bets and villain raises, then hero is sad because everyone gets shut out of the pot. [/ QUOTE ] Do you really think that everybody bails out getting 10:1 or better? |
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Re: Limp-Reaise followed by Limp-cap!
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[ QUOTE ] If hero bets and villain raises, then hero is sad because everyone gets shut out of the pot. [/ QUOTE ] Do you really think that everybody bails out getting 10:1 or better? [/ QUOTE ] Not necessarily everyone, but enough. Hero has 9 diamonds plus 6 non-repeated OESD outs. I don't trust his K/Q outs in this spot. Hero needs at least 3 callers to make the equity edge. Will there be two cold-callers if villain decides to raise us? It will be close. That the turn got checked through with seven players is pretty amazing (as is UTG+2's fold). |
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