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Home Game Guilt
Anyone ever have this feeling?
I never feel guilty winning online, and have only felt guilty winning at a casino once. But playing in a home game with the same people about once a week has me feeling a bit guilty. I have known all the players since high school, though not close friends of mine, I feel kind of bad winning. There are 2 guys who lose everytime they play, one will drop $2-300 the other has lost up to 800 a few times. Its gotten to the point where I will even review hands with them and tell them what they should have done differently (when they ask). Am I alone in these feelings |
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Re: Home Game Guilt
for the amount of money you are playign for in this case, no. Because they know what they are getting into, and there has to be an expected level of play with that kind of money. If it was $20 every time and it was someone's gas money, that may be different, but this seems to be a more serious game then that.
Bring some beer, it will help you play worse, and make everyone happy (and also everyone else play worse) also, I kept reading the title as "Home game GUILD"... |
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Re: Home Game Guilt
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Am I alone in these feelings [/ QUOTE ] Not at all. I took up poker during my freshman year at Cornell, and we had a regular game on our hall in my dorm. A few of the players were decent -- (one, in fact, set up the game to try to take all of our money [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]) -- but I quickly joined the ranks of the one or two people who had most of the chips at the end. I never felt bad winning against the decent/good players, but there were a few regulars at the game who would donate, rebuy, and donate again. I'd probably walk away with $30-$60 profit on any given night of this $5 or $10 buy-in game with 30BB stacks. Sure, it got me into poker, and I had some more spending money to play with... but something didn't sit right about going and knocking on everyone's door (with a group), getting them to come to the study lounge and play poker, and then quickly putting their $10+ in my pocket every day. Yes, yes, I know it's their money and it's their decision to play, but it doesn't mean you can't think about it. |
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Re: Home Game Guilt
Dammit I wish I woulda done that in my dorms...
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Re: Home Game Guilt
"Its gotten to the point where I will even review hands with them and tell them what they should have done differently (when they ask)."
Bring them over on a special night for a training/strategy session (maybe include bankroll mgmt) Teach them how to play so they aren't chum. |
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Re: Home Game Guilt
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Bring them over on a special night for a training/strategy session [/ QUOTE ] But then I run the risk of alienating people, and I dont want to come off as if Im trying to tell people I am better than them. Also, they do generally have fun playing, so I dont want to ruin that for them. 1 or 2 have been known to drop 5-10 thousand in a 3 day trip to the casinos (playing BJ), a substantial amount of money for them. So In general they take it in stride when they lose, but I still get a feeling of guilt [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img] |
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Re: Home Game Guilt
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Also, they do generally have fun playing [/ QUOTE ] Well, that's the important thing. You could recommend some reading (I just turned a beginner in our home game on to GSIH) and I think it's generous of you to offer some additional tips/coaching (we will usually discuss a few hands that have played in our game for the benefit of the beginners in the group). I don't think you should feel out-and-out guilty, though. They are obviously aware of the stakes, of how they are doing, etc. If they are enjoying themselves, then that's the important thing. |
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Re: Home Game Guilt
I sympathize, too. I routinely beat the game I play (for MUCH lower stakes- $70 win for a seven-man tourney), but the players at the game have made it clear they don't like it when I mention the odds, etc. I'm not overbearing about it (at least, I think I'm not) and it usually stems from guilt after taking someone who has no business holding hole cards. But hey, if they are comfortable losing it, that's their fault. There are plenty of books out there; hell, that's how I improved from the fish I once once to the amphibian I now am. Mammaldom, here I come!
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Re: Home Game Guilt
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[ QUOTE ] Bring them over on a special night for a training/strategy session [/ QUOTE ] But then I run the risk of alienating people, and I dont want to come off as if Im trying to tell people I am better than them. Also, they do generally have fun playing, so I dont want to ruin that for them. 1 or 2 have been known to drop 5-10 thousand in a 3 day trip to the casinos (playing BJ), a substantial amount of money for them. So In general they take it in stride when they lose, but I still get a feeling of guilt [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img] [/ QUOTE ] If you really want to help them, you might want to refer them to Gambler's Anonymous. |
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Re: Home Game Guilt
Yes. I dominate my home games ($10-$20 buy-in, but many reloads... usually $200 pot for 7-8 people) and feel guilty when I win. I feel especially guilty when I play with one certain kid: his name is Dave and he is one of the nicest people I have ever known. He is AWFUL at poker and loses every time (mostly because he is painfully shy so he hates raising because it puts attention on himself). Oh, and did I mention he is going to West Point? Yeah, taking money from a future officer in the US Military and defender of our nation doesn't sit so right with me.
That said, I need gas money. |
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