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A5s -- Confused by HUD stats
PokerAce HUD tells me Villain is 3.7/0.0/5.0 over 54 hands.
Those stats are so weird I just called down. Anyone play this differently? Party Poker 5/10 Hold'em (8 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx Preflop: Hero is CO with A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]. <font color="#666666">4 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, BB calls. Flop: (4.40 SB) 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">BB raises</font>, Hero calls. Turn: (4.20 BB) 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> <font color="#CC3333">BB bets</font>, Hero calls. River: (6.20 BB) K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> <font color="#CC3333">BB bets</font>, Hero calls. Final Pot: 8.20 BB |
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Re: A5s -- Confused by HUD stats
those stats are fairly worthless after only 50 hands, so yeah I call down too.
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Re: A5s -- Confused by HUD stats
I think those 54 hands are enough to declare him very tight. In more than 5 orbits, he put money in preflop only twice, correct? It would take an extreme run of trash to produce that 3.7 stat with even just a moderately tight player.
Still, I probably call down. He could easily be sitting on a decent PP instead of a big Ace. The super-rocks I've seen tend to hate to give up the few hands they play. |
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Re: A5s -- Confused by HUD stats
i play it the same. you have no kicker, but 50 hands is closer to unknown than to a good read IMO. i would call down with top pair against an unknown on what is essentially a drawless board a majority of the time. especially in what could possibly be considered a blind battle(people get goofy in defending sometimes).
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Re: A5s -- Confused by HUD stats
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on what is essentially a drawless board [/ QUOTE ] If 2 diamonds is a drawless board, what do you consider a board with draws? T98 monotone? I'm not being sarcastic, just curious. |
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Re: A5s -- Confused by HUD stats
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[ QUOTE ] on what is essentially a drawless board [/ QUOTE ] If 2 diamonds is a drawless board, what do you consider a board with draws? T98 monotone? I'm not being sarcastic, just curious. [/ QUOTE ] my bad. still wiping sleep out of my eyes. i kind of meant no draws came in by the river. |
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Re: A5s -- Confused by HUD stats
Think about he did during the 50 hands you have on him. With a VP$IP of 3.7 (not sure how this is possible unless you rounded off the number of hands) he mostly folded, this guy is a rock. I'd put him on a better ace at least, most likely a set.
It's hard to say though without actually having been there. It's just my experience especially through thousands of hours of live play that people who play this tight when entering a game will have the nuts or close to it when they make moves like this. Is it different online? I'm not sure I just started playing at home last month. |
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Re: A5s -- Confused by HUD stats
What does he play to get those stats? AA, KK, QQ, AK, and JJ? I guess 50 hands isn't much, but still... jeez.
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Re: A5s -- Confused by HUD stats
I wonder if I've ever played just 2 out of 54 hands. I'd imagine it's happened. It felt like it, a couple of times.
Anyway, calling down seems fine to me. I think I'd just want to get to showdown and see what kind of cards this guy does play. I'd imagine he has a better ace, though, and while I rarely fold a pair of aces in a blind-steal situation, I can see a case for doing so versus the flop checkraise here. But I'm pretty sure I would call down. |
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Re: A5s -- Confused by HUD stats
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I wonder if I've ever played just 2 out of 54 hands. I'd imagine it's happened. It felt like it, a couple of times. [/ QUOTE ] Yeah, in fact for example, I played live with private joker last night, and he said he was at a must move table for something like an hour and a half and never put in money after the flop. He played like one hand from the BB (to a raise) in that time, and essentially got blinded off for about 7 or 8 BB. That kind of stretch will give you a VPIP <5 over 50 hands. Sometimes the cards go dead, even for a maniac like Zach. |
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