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OOP non-nut draw + continuation
Critique of all streets welcome.
$100 PLO, loose-passive. Seat 1: Hero [9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]] (UTG+2, $100) Seat 6: Foe ($160) ANTES/BLINDS B1 posts blind ($1), B2 posts blind ($1). PRE-FLOP UTG folds, UTG+1 bets $4, Hero calls $4, MP1 folds, MP2 folds, MP3 folds, Foe calls $4, B1 folds, B2 calls $3. ($17) FLOP [8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]] B2 checks, UTG+1 checks, Hero bets $10, Foe calls $10, B2 folds, UTG+1 folds. ($37) TURN [4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]] Hero bets $25. |
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Re: OOP non-nut draw + continuation
Standard play. Fold to a raise, check-fold the river if called unless you suck out with a K.
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Re: OOP non-nut draw + continuation
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Standard play. Fold to a raise, check-fold the river if called unless you suck out with a K. [/ QUOTE ] This is true as long as you also always would bet a full here. |
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Re: OOP non-nut draw + continuation
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This is true as long as you also always would bet a full here. [/ QUOTE ] Point taken, though here I'm pretty confident I'm ahead and need to charge foe to draw. Foe passing is of course a-ok as well. |
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Re: OOP non-nut draw + continuation
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Standard play. Fold to a raise, check-fold the river if called unless you suck out with a K. [/ QUOTE ] Not much cash PLO experience, so be gentle. Its definitely not a good play on his part, but in a $100 game isn't possible that he's still in there with J8 or with a good flush/straight draw.? With a river check, might he be inclined to try and bluff the river? If the river is a blank, I'd be inclined to make a smaller defensive bet. Obvious?, setting myself up to get smoked? Could mix in smaller bets on the river with the nuts as a cover for these situations. |
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Re: OOP non-nut draw + continuation
As it played out I thought it was standard as well. (Foe did fold btw.) Afterwards though I felt a 4 was one of the few happy turn cards OOP. If the 8 were a pip or two lower then at least a turned K would be welcome. Meh.
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Re: OOP non-nut draw + continuation
I dont think my response is as clear cut as joe's. if you consider what he could be calling and not raising with on the flop, I wouldn't put him on a hand on which the 4 helped him.
This is one of those hands where knowing your opponent is huge. I doubt most people would slowplay a set here. While against some trickier opponents you might get slowplayed, I dont know if this is the kind of flop they would do it on with plenty of draws out there. Therefore, my assumption is that the 4 helped you more than it helped him. With that in mind, I think I might check here. Lets say on the flop he had some sort of monster draw: 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] t[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] against your hand he was a 73% favorite, but after this turn, he is a 45% dog in the hand. This improvement on your hand is true on all draws that do not include a 4, or middle or top set. The key piece of information for me here would be how likely you are to put this particular foe on a slowplayed set. If he has a 4, there is a good chance that you have higher diamonds and some outs incase you made the wrong choice. I like gambling, and this is a position I might choose to gamble. If he just calls your bet, and a safecard comes on the river (2c or a diamond), I will probably check call as more hands I can beat will bet out on the river, and no hands I can beat will call, but i might have also chosen to check-raise this turn. NOTE: I just realized i never submitted this but rather left it in the preview pane. I'd still like some comments on this analysis. |
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