ATs and a coordinated board

MaxPower · #1 10-19-2005, 03:48 PM

15/30 game online.

Fairly loose very aggressive player limps UTG, I raise UTG+1 with A [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] T [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], folded to the BB (slightly loose/not too aggresssive) who calls, UTG calls. 3 to the flop for 6 2/3 sb.

Flop: 5 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 7 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 9 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]

BB bets, UTG calls, I call. pot 4.5BB

Turn: T [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]

BB bets, UTG calls, What is my plan?

Thanks.

@bsolute_luck · #2 10-19-2005, 03:56 PM

i want to raise because it is possible i have the best hand and UTG is padding the pot now on his [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] draw (possibly). my problem is what to do if i'm 3-bet by BB, which i don't have an answer....

BigBiceps · #3 10-19-2005, 04:02 PM

Call.

This gives him a chance to bluff the river, if he misses whatever crazy draw he is on. If he checks this river and it is a non-club then you are probably safe to bet.

Evan · #4 10-19-2005, 04:06 PM

I can't fathom not raising. I call down if I get 3 bet but I that's not happening as often as some people will think.

MaxPower · #5 10-19-2005, 04:16 PM

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I can't fathom not raising. I call down if I get 3 bet but I that's not happening as often as some people will think.

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OK, I raised. Now the big big blind called, and the UTG player (who had just been calling thus far) re-raised, I called and the BB folded.

The river was the Jack of Diamonds and I called a bet from UTG.

BigEndian · #6 10-19-2005, 04:22 PM

Was he that crazy aggressive that you felt it merited a call-down when he woke up?

- Jim

bobhalford · #7 10-19-2005, 05:39 PM

I would raise the flop in order to get a free card or maybe 2 if I need it.

Evan · #8 10-19-2005, 06:20 PM

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I can't fathom not raising. I call down if I get 3 bet but I that's not happening as often as some people will think.

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OK, I raised. Now the big big blind called, and the UTG player (who had just been calling thus far) re-raised, I called and the BB folded.

The river was the Jack of Diamonds and I called a bet from UTG.

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I think you should fold to the turn 3 bet. You're drawing dead usually. That being said, I'd call down out of a consistant form of tilt that I struggle with.

brettbrettr · #9 10-19-2005, 06:29 PM

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I'd call down out of a consistant form of tilt that I struggle with.

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Its called showdown addiction and I too am afflicted.

Evan · #10 10-19-2005, 06:32 PM

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I'd call down out of a consistent form of tilt that I struggle with.

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Its called showdown addiction and I too am afflicted.

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The weird thing is that I probably see a lot fewer showdowns than most people (relative to how I play and all that), but against really weird lines like this I always have a hard time trusting myself. Part of that is the really weird lines like this often produce artificially bloated pots so you should call down more, but still I feel like I do too much. I'm conscious of it though, so at least it's something I can try to improve.