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Fold | 26 | 78.79% | |
Raise | 1 | 3.03% | |
Call | 6 | 18.18% | |
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AK flop decision - 20/40
20/40 live, full good game. I open in MP with A [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]K [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]. Very tight player (TP - running bad has caused him to be more passive than usual) cold-calls to my immediate left. I see him calling with AQ, AJ, ATs or a medium pocket pair. All others fold except BB, who is a loosey-goosey and plays a variety of cards. Three to the flop.
FLOP: A [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]8 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]4 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] BB checks. In my mind, I have two choices: |
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Re: AK flop decision - 20/40
In this spot I like betting the flop becuz if opens up a chance that I can trap the tight player on the turn for more money.
For example: Lets say I bet the flop and the tight player just calls, and the BB calls or folds. Since I would put the tight player on an ace, I would check the turn knowing the tight player will bet and then I will raise. Also If I bet the flop and the tight player raised and the BB folded, I would just call and checkraise the turn. When out of position, 3 betting the flop and leading the turn is my usual line, but on this drawless of a board I prefer trapping the villain on the bigger streets. If I bet the flop and the tight player raised, and the BB called, I would 3 bet right away since I have two donating customers, and there's no guarantee the BB will commit more money on the turn, so I'd rather charge him 3 bets now. |
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Re: AK flop decision - 20/40
I think this is a pretty easy bet. If you check and TP does bet and BB does call (a parlay) and you checkraise, what hands are going to call you? Pretty much only one of the other 2 aces. If you bet, it looks like a continuation and you can get called down by JJ, etc. Or whatever. And like you said, getting raised will allow you to 3-bet for value.
Checking TPTK in this spot is a bit of FPS. |
#4
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Re: AK flop decision - 20/40
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Checking TPTK in this spot is a bit of FPS. [/ QUOTE ] I'd say this is more than a bit of FPS, rather it is the definition of FPS. Put your money in the pot when you have the best hand. What happens if the flop gets checked through?? That would suck big time. West and PJ are right on. Getting raised and having the bb fold is not the worst thing in the world either. Also, I'd be much more concerned of a TAG checking this flop than him betting out. A TAG will bet and enormous range of hands with this flop after raising, he will typically only be checking if he is trying to be tricky. Maybe try a trap on the turn if you get raised on the flop, otherwise bet, bet, bet! |
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Re: AK flop decision - 20/40
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In this spot I like betting the flop becuz if opens up a chance that I can trap the tight player on the turn for more money. For example: Lets say I bet the flop and the tight player just calls, and the BB calls or folds. Since I would put the tight player on an ace, I would check the turn knowing the tight player will bet and then I will raise. Also If I bet the flop and the tight player raised and the BB folded, I would just call and checkraise the turn. When out of position, 3 betting the flop and leading the turn is my usual line, but on this drawless of a board I prefer trapping the villain on the bigger streets. If I bet the flop and the tight player raised, and the BB called, I would 3 bet right away since I have two donating customers, and there's no guarantee the BB will commit more money on the turn, so I'd rather charge him 3 bets now. [/ QUOTE ] This post sums it up perfectly, if you ask me. |
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RESULTS
Thank you for the responses. I didn't like my play at all, for I went for the check-raise and should have just bet it through. Oh don't get me wrong, the check-raise worked but...
FLOP ACTION: BB checks, I check, TP bets, BB calls, I check-raise. TP pauses and calls as does BB. Three to the turn. TURN: 6 BB checks, I bet, TP folds, BB calls. Headsup. RIVER: 5 BB bets, I call. BB shows 76o and hits his gutshot. I racked up and went to dinner at Mom's. Merry Christmas to all. |
#7
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Re: RESULTS
BB likely would've stayed in to the river anyways even if you bet out. Just because he won the pot, doesn't mean you played it wrong.
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Re: RESULTS
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BB likely would've stayed in to the river anyways even if you bet out. Just because he won the pot, doesn't mean you played it wrong. b [/ QUOTE ] Agreed. I love the way this flop was played, BB was making a mistake by calling both on the flop and the turn. |
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Re: RESULTS
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[ QUOTE ] BB likely would've stayed in to the river anyways even if you bet out. Just because he won the pot, doesn't mean you played it wrong. b [/ QUOTE ] Agreed. I love the way this flop was played, BB was making a mistake by calling both on the flop and the turn. [/ QUOTE ] He didn't make a mistake calling the turn. b |
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Re: RESULTS
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] BB likely would've stayed in to the river anyways even if you bet out. Just because he won the pot, doesn't mean you played it wrong. b [/ QUOTE ] Agreed. I love the way this flop was played, BB was making a mistake by calling both on the flop and the turn. [/ QUOTE ] He didn't make a mistake calling the turn. b [/ QUOTE ] You're correct. Still all streets were played well. |
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