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I don\'t check raise enough (PS5/10)
I just transitioned up to PS 5/10, still doing some 3/6 and one or two tables at time looking for good table selection.
I don't find this a problem at the beginning of sessions, TAG play works... but then it sort of stops working for me without being able to checkraise effectively. I can induce some bluffs on the river, but have a hard time raising. I also might not be three betting enough, but I haven't looked yet. Here is one hand I try to check raise. Player to my left will not raise anyone or anything. but he will bet out. PokerStars 5/10 Hold'em (6 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx Preflop: Hero is BB with 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]. <font color="#CC3333">UTG raises</font>, MP calls, CO calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">SB 3-bets</font>, Hero calls, UTG calls, MP calls, CO calls. Flop: (15 SB) 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(5 players)</font> SB checks, Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">UTG bets</font>, MP folds, CO folds, SB calls, Hero calls. Turn: (9 BB) 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font> SB checks, Hero checks, UTG checks. River: (9 BB) K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font> SB checks, Hero checks. UTG... checks. |
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Re: I don\'t check raise enough (PS5/10)
Ok ok, let me get this straight. You paid a lot of bets to see a flop with a pocket pair. Fine, but you need implied odds. You get your set + an ace, so people will hopefulyl want to go to war.
So your tactic is to check? Check-raising sucks here, because betting gets more money in the pot, its that simple. Bet-get raised, and 3-bet, rather then check-raise, he calls, and you get 2 bets. Be aggressive. |
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Re: I don\'t check raise enough (PS5/10)
I paid 2 for a 15 bet pot. and 3 for 20 isn't terrible. I only need 2 more big bets for the implied odds.
I was looking to raise the turn because the read was that this player would never raise anyone. A TPP, and betting the flop would be the same as him betting it.. he might even fold if bet into. Raising the flop would do nothing to protect the hand.. So it is the turn that I don't like. |
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Re: I don\'t check raise enough (PS5/10)
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I paid 2 for a 15 bet pot. and 3 for 20 isn't terrible. I only need 2 more big bets for the implied odds. I was looking to raise the turn because the read was that this player would never raise anyone. A TPP, and betting the flop would be the same as him betting it.. he might even fold if bet into. Raising the flop would do nothing to protect the hand.. So it is the turn that I don't like. [/ QUOTE ] Who cares? YOU DIDN'T EVEN BET THE RIVER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
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Re: I don\'t check raise enough (PS5/10)
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Raising the flop would do nothing to protect the hand. [/ QUOTE ] Why on earth are you worried about protecting your hand? |
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Re: I don\'t check raise enough (PS5/10)
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[ QUOTE ] Raising the flop would do nothing to protect the hand. [/ QUOTE ] Why on earth are you worried about protecting your hand? [/ QUOTE ] Hahaha. This is my favorite misconception. Sets rarely need protection and they definitely don't need it on this flop. Not betting the river is criminal. Absolutely criminal. Elementary hand reading seems to indicate noone has an ace. What hand do you expect to bet AND call a raise? What hands do you expect to call a river bet? Hmmmm.... Krishan |
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Re: I don\'t check raise enough (PS5/10)
checkraising the flop is the play here. hopefully, utg 3bets so you can cr the turn.
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Re: I don\'t check raise enough (PS5/10)
3-bet flop..
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Re: I don\'t check raise enough (PS5/10)
how does your answer change if the player to my left doesn't raise?
He hasn't raised a flop or later street yet at this table. Except with kings, which he would have capped preflop. The player to my right checked the river on the button with A7 on an 4JA7A board. Which is almost as bad as me checking this river. I still wanted the checkraise. |
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Re: I don\'t check raise enough (PS5/10)
Thanks for all the replies... I probably tilt checked the river. But I did get a bit to think about and hopefully learn.
results: SB had JTo and UTG had 88. so mhig. [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img] |
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