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Old 05-07-2003, 11:28 AM
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House panel backs limits on online gambling. Washington--A House subcommittee voted Tuesday to make it harder for Americans to gamble on the Internet, opting not to consider an alternative proposal that could lead to states legalizing and taxing online casinos.

Democrats on the House Judiciary subcommittee on crime said they would raise that alternative when the full committee considers the bill.

By a voice vote, the subcommittee approved legislationthat would prohibit the use of credit cards, checks and electronic fund transfers to pay for online betting transactions.

The bill, sponsored by Republican Rep. Jim Leach of Iowa, previously passed the House Financial Services Committee. The full House approved a similar measure in the previous Congress, but it died in the Senate. From the May 7th Milwaukee Journal Sentinel.
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Old 05-07-2003, 11:31 AM
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Welcom to America! The land of the free and the home of the brave. Hmmmm... 1 out of 2 ain't so bad..
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Old 05-07-2003, 12:28 PM
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Sorry, but that is exactly what it is.

The congressman who sponsored the bill feels that is what a majoity of his constituents want, and if that is what the public wants to disallow, then the public should be able to make that law. You do not have a constitutional right to play online poker.

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Old 05-07-2003, 01:07 PM
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Kind of like the PM of Israel continuing to build new developments while displacing Palestinians, all the while the people of Israel are screaming for him to stop. Hmmm

Politicians spin legislation so that thier constituents think that thier views are being represented. Whether or not they are is another story. The public doesn't make laws, we don't hold referendums like other countries, and thank god. I say this because the majority of Americans are completely clueless about what is best for them.

I love America, I think that it could be an awesome country.

Politicians like this scare the heck out of me. This guy is a right wing, bible thumping, save the world from sin, kind of politician. I know because I used to vote for guys like this. They scared me less than the passive, environazi, lets save the world by giving them all of our money types.

Politics seem to be overrun with these types of extremists lately and this country is going to hell in a handbasket because of them.
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Old 05-08-2003, 01:30 AM
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Kind of like the PM of Israel continuing to build new developments while displacing Palestinians, all the while the people of Israel are screaming for him to stop. Hmmm

Few things:
1 All of the people in Israel are not screaming at the PM we just had elections and his party got a big voter share
2 Palestinians are not being displaced
3 The government has taken down illegal israeli settlements that are in supposed palestinian territory, but allows Bedouin illegal settlements in south Israel to go unchecked


As for your views on the US government, I dont know, I always had a little more faith in it than that. I still vote you know... absentee ballots, and im not voting for anyone who supports stopping online gambling.

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Old 05-08-2003, 06:40 AM
Kurn, son of Mogh Kurn, son of Mogh is offline
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I'm 100% with you on this one.
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Old 05-08-2003, 12:23 PM
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My understanding is that thier is only one "real" party in Israel.

Palestinians are being displaced, and have been being displaced for 50 years. Ask those who used to live in Jerusalem.

Illegal Israeli settlements. Thats like if we moved the Texas border 1 mile south every month for a year, and then said oh how did those illegal settlements get there?

The line was drawn a long time ago and Israel has pushed it out ever since. Thier shouldn't be a seperate nation of Israel, it wasn't right for one to be created in the first place.

FYI I'm a Christian, I lean republican, I think the Jewish people are "the chosen", they have a right to live in peace, but will never be able to when they continue to use acts of terrorism to oppress the palestinian people.

I think that online gambling should be legalized, and regulated.
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Old 05-07-2003, 01:12 PM
Kurn, son of Mogh Kurn, son of Mogh is offline
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Please cite the appropriate passage in the US Constitution that denies my right to play online poker.
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Old 05-07-2003, 01:22 PM
Kurn, son of Mogh Kurn, son of Mogh is offline
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In fact, I would argue that taken in conjunction with Article 8, Amendments IX and X specifically *deny* congress the power to make such a law.
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Old 05-07-2003, 06:12 PM
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Check out article 1, section 8, clause 3. The power to regulate interstate, foreign and Indian commerce defeats your 10th Amendment argument.

I have no idea what 9th Amendment argument you are relying on. What right retained by the people are you refering to? Certainly not any judically recognized fundamental right reserved to the people, such as family or privacy, would permit a basis to challenge the regulation of foreign commerce (I don't know of any online gaming establishments based in the US, but they would be subject to regulation as interstate commerce).

By the way, I am pretty sure there are only 7 Articles in the United States Constitution, what other argument are you thinking about here?
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