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Old 07-12-2004, 12:18 PM
B Dids B Dids is offline
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Default Dids\'s WSOP \'05 Get Less Fat Incentive Plan.

Posting this, if only because knowing that other people are aware of it will make it harder to mess up

I'm fat, I need to be less so. I have a plan to make that happen.

Thoughts, advice, abuse?
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Old 07-12-2004, 12:33 PM
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Default Re: Dids\'s WSOP \'05 Get Less Fat Incentive Plan.

seems like a worthy goal! another thing that might work well is, if you like to run, sign up for some local road races where you live. sign up for a 10k race in a couple of months, and it will give you a goal to train for. you would be amazed at what you can accomplish with a good, reasonable training program. I never thought I could run a marathon, but I got in to the nyc one a couple years back and now I've run two! hal higdon has a bunch of good, free training programs on his website, www.halhigdon.com

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Old 07-13-2004, 01:42 PM
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seems like a worthy goal! another thing that might work well is, if you like to run, sign up for some local road races where you live. sign up for a 10k race in a couple of months, and it will give you a goal to train for. you would be amazed at what you can accomplish with a good, reasonable training program. I never thought I could run a marathon, but I got in to the nyc one a couple years back and now I've run two! hal higdon has a bunch of good, free training programs on his website, www.halhigdon.com

--turnipmonster

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this is excellent advice.

i run 4-5 miles per day and am now 100% addicted to it. i used to weigh about 200-210 lbs (i'm 5-7.5 or 5-8 so that is a good amount on my frame). i now weigh 150odd pounds (although i had a bad swing the other way and was at 130odd for a little while)...

running and eating right was the absolute no question key to the loss of weight and my lifestyle is now such that its almost impossible for me to gain more than 5-10 lbs by eating wrong. i also have to eat right to maintain my weight so if i stop eating again i lose the weight too quick since i run so much.

your goals are definately doable and i would suggest a few things:

1) walk 1.5 miles BEFORE you eat dinner every day (it takes so little time and is quite enjoyable says those who i've talked to who do it)

WHY? there were studies done that showed that a person excersizing vigrorously burned LESS FAT than somebody walking at a slow/medium pace. fat doesn't get burned as efficiently at a high rate of anerobic respiration (aparantly) and therefore a slow walk before dinner EVERY DAY (in addition to your "workouts") will really show a significant difference.

2) eat things you love. i happen to love corn and lima beans together for lunch. tastes good and is really good for you. i also do something very bad, which is i skip breakfast b/c i like sleep above eating (but just barely) so i don't eat till about 1/2 every day. this is bad b/c i eat more later in the day and thats worse than eating earlier in the day. so find foods you love and eat breakfast and lunch and dinner around healthy foods.

3) DO NOT UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES eat extra trans fats. no candy, no partially hydrogenated oils (chips etc.) and NONE OF THAT CRAP: eat bananas! they are delicious and healthy. apples, peaches pears etc. are also good. if you have a sweet tooth buy strawberries and blackberries (oh, god blackberries are awesome)

GOOD LUCK TO YOU!

-Barron
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Old 07-13-2004, 06:42 PM
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Default Re: Dids\'s WSOP \'05 Get Less Fat Incentive Plan.

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walk 1.5 miles BEFORE you eat dinner every day (it takes so little time and is quite enjoyable says those who i've talked to who do it)

WHY? there were studies done that showed that a person excersizing vigrorously burned LESS FAT than somebody walking at a slow/medium pace. fat doesn't get burned as efficiently at a high rate of anerobic respiration (aparantly) and therefore a slow walk before dinner EVERY DAY (in addition to your "workouts") will really show a significant difference.


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This is a little misleading. When exercising between about 50-65% of your maximum heart rate your body uses oxygen and stored fat most efficiently for fuel. When you exersice at a higher rate you start to get your fuel more from sources otehr than fat. Exercising above this zone won't cause you to not lose fat, or to lose less fat (the more calories burned in this higher zone will excelerate weight loss), its just you arn't burning the fat as fast while you exersise (hopefully that made sense).

Most people arnt exercising above this zone really anyway, so it doesnt matter much. Also regular walking wont get you into 50-65% of your max heart rate anyway, it needs to be a vigorious walking. Which I would actually say is better than running for someone first getting into exersise, or someone very over weight. But in the end tho, its calories in vs calories out, and running burns more calories than walking, so once you are at a level of fitness where running is an option it is the much better choice for weight loss.
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Old 07-14-2004, 08:56 AM
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Default Re: Dids\'s WSOP \'05 Get Less Fat Incentive Plan.

Hey thanks so much for linking to that marathon training guide. I've become interested in running the Mardi Gras Marathon in New Orleans next year and have been looking around for a good training guide. Thanks for informing me about this one!
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Old 07-12-2004, 12:44 PM
Monty Cantsin Monty Cantsin is offline
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Default Re: Dids\'s WSOP \'05 Get Less Fat Incentive Plan.

You might already know this but The South Beach Diet is far, far superior to raw Atkins.

Good luck.

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Old 07-12-2004, 03:23 PM
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Default Re: Dids\'s WSOP \'05 Get Less Fat Incentive Plan.

Anyone who is on the atkins diet is an idiot. I would almost go so far as to say that anyone who buys a diet book and reads it is an idiot. If you are going to buy a book buy a basic nutrition book.

I think the intelligence of america hit an all time low when Dr.Phil weight loss book became a bestseller. who buys a book on how to lose weight when the author and guy on the cover IS A FAT MAN??!?!?!?

I'll break it down for you plain and simple, as a poker player it should be easy to lose weight cuz its all a numbers game. Calories in vs. Calories out. When the out number is higher than the in, you lose weight.

There is 3500 calories in a pound of fat, so if you eat 250 clories less a day and burn 250 more clories a day then usual, you will lose 1 pound of fat a week. Anything higher than a 1,000 clorie a day defecit and your body starts doing funky things like not burning fat, but muscle instead, thats why if you see any diet that advertises weight lose of more then 2lbs a week ITS NOT ALL FAT!!!!!!

Its simple, eat healthy and exersise. You follow that one simple sentance and you will lose weight and save hunders of dollars not having to buy stupid deit books or gimmicky exersise equipment.
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Old 07-12-2004, 03:26 PM
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Default Re: Dids\'s WSOP \'05 Get Less Fat Incentive Plan.

Atkins works. I don't think it's stupid at all. The problem is that it doesn't leave you much of a place to go on you lose weight. I think for the right person, it's very viable diet, espeically if you just want to drop a small amount of weight. For somebody in my spot it fails because I don't require a diet, I require a change in the way I live my life.
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Old 07-12-2004, 03:48 PM
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Default Re: Dids\'s WSOP \'05 Get Less Fat Incentive Plan.

Atkins is for fat chicks who want to squeeze into a prom dress. It's temporary, it gets your weight down after 2 weeks.

It is possibly the most unhealthy diet in the world to sustain.
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Old 07-12-2004, 03:50 PM
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Default Re: Dids\'s WSOP \'05 Get Less Fat Incentive Plan.

That's actually kinda what I was trying to say- you just put it better.

IF done right- it can be healthy- it's just that doing it right is hard, and when you fall off of it- or don't stick to it hard, it can hurt you.
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