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\"Dont slowplay a straight\" but I do it anyway
Another hand without reads, sorry. This was from my second session ever at Stars .50/1, but the table did seem rather soft, if a little tricky at times.
PokerStars 0.50/1.00 Hold'em (10 handed) converter Preflop: Hero is MP2 with K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]. UTG calls, UTG+1 calls, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, MP3 calls, CO calls, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, UTG calls, UTG+1 calls. Flop: (11.50 SB) J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(5 players)</font> <font color="#CC3333">UTG bets</font>, UTG+1 calls, Hero calls... Over and over again we're told to not slowplay the straight, don't slowplay the straight. And yet, here I am slowplaying the straight, even in a big pot. Still, a raise on this flop seems like it would announce to the whole world what I have and kill the action; additionally the rainbow board makes a free card pretty safe, outside of an A or K falling and making us chop. I see an argument for just calling here, and really little more than dogma telling me to raise. Someone wanna slap some sense into me? |
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Re: \"Dont slowplay a straight\" but I do it anyway
I'd check too.
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Re: \"Dont slowplay a straight\" but I do it anyway
I think a call kills your action more than a raise. A raise would usually be AA/KK/Set/KQ. A call on the flop and a raise on the turn tells everyone what your hand is.
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Re: \"Dont slowplay a straight\" but I do it anyway
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I think a call kills your action more than a raise. [/ QUOTE ] Agreed. Everybody expects you to have some piece of this broadway flop after your PFR, so they fully expect you to raise this. When you opt to just call, they have to wonder wtf you could have that justifies just calling as opposed to raising or folding. I suppose AJ or 88 (if you raise that PF) might just call, but AQ, KK, JJ, KJs, etc are all probably raising here. A flop raise does not announce to the table that you flopped the nut straight. A flop call followed by a turn raise, on the other hand . . . |
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Re: \"Dont slowplay a straight\" but I do it anyway
By the time you raise the turn, more than half the players will have already folded. There's no guarantee that utg will bet again if you just call the flop. Someone else could have a big hand (like a set) and give you unlimited action.
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Re: \"Dont slowplay a straight\" but I do it anyway
Your hand is vulnerable to a chop and to a loss.
Someone who's going to call one on that flop will quite likely call two as well. I suppose these comments sort of cut against each other, but I think you should raise for value. |
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Re: \"Dont slowplay a straight\" but I do it anyway
This is a must raise man. Give people a chace to make some bad coldcalls here on a board that they probably connected with (in a weaker way then you of course).
Brad |
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Re: \"Dont slowplay a straight\" but I do it anyway
No one raises with the nuts in .5/1 on the flop.
That is what is running through the minds of the people at your table as they desperately try to figure out what you have they beat, or can draw to to beat before they hit call, or sometimes raise. |
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Re: \"Dont slowplay a straight\" but I do it anyway
very easy flop raise, let them coldcall with a K or A, trying to catchup, they will.
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Re: \"Dont slowplay a straight\" but I do it anyway
Raise. This is such a 2-pairy, straight-drawy, gutshot-y board they're gonna call and call and maybe raise and call and you win money.
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