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Smoke Screens (Wynn 5/10)
Live 5/10 at the Wynn.
Passed to me (~2k) in MP and I wing out 30 with K [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 8 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]. Called by button (~1400) and BB (very good player who reads me well, has ~2k). Flop: A [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 7 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 3 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] BB checks. I check. Button bets a small handful, which ends up being 120 or so. BB calls. I call. Turn: T [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] BB checks. I bet 250. BB insta-calls. BB thinks for a little bit and calls. River: Q [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] BB quick-checks. I move all in. Justification for my play to come later if I can manage to concoct some sort of convincing argument. Otherwise just the results. |
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Re: Smoke Screens (Wynn 5/10)
I like the river, especially if you normally bet your draws but checked this time...I almost always bet my draws so this would be a perfect play for me based on teh flop action. Let me get this straight though, Button overbet the flop, you bet turn, button insta calls, BB thinks for a little and calls?
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Re: Smoke Screens (Wynn 5/10)
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Let me get this straight though, Button overbet the flop, you bet turn, button insta calls, BB thinks for a little and calls? [/ QUOTE ] Yeah. That's correct. |
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Re: Smoke Screens (Wynn 5/10)
it doesn't look like bb likes his hand too much up until the turn, so what you're praying for is that bb has made a flush on the river. even so, i think bb would've bet his flush on the river, knowing that was a card that he would think you and button may not have wanted to see. i'm not sure if bb would call even with a flush on the river, smelling something suspicious. he would have to put you on a pure bluff to call, knowing that AK/AQ/AT would probably want a cheap showdown.
i'm not sure what my course of action would be...but if you feel that you have a crazy image (ie calling all ins with 93o) then the push is fine. if you're a tight ass mofo like me, i like a 1/2-3/4 pot bet (around 600-800), which has a better chance of getting a call from at least the button or the bb, and if bb has a flush, he will certainly pay that off. |
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Re: Smoke Screens (Wynn 5/10)
I thought the button is more likely to have a flush [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]. the BB check calling a pot overbet (120 into a 90 pot) would be a pretty bad play unless he was sure he was getting paid. I can't put him on a flush draw for that reason.
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Re: Smoke Screens (Wynn 5/10)
good point turnip
however, i'm having difficulty as well as to what bb could be holding...perhaps AK, but i see that giving up on the turn to a bet and a call. bottom set could be the most likely, but i don't think bb is going to call an all in with that. plus i think a set, two pair hand would've spoke up earlier in the hand to protect against the diamonds. |
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Re: Smoke Screens (Wynn 5/10)
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Justification for my play to come later after I can manage to concoct some sort of convincing argument. [/ QUOTE ] FYP [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img] I luv that quote... will be stealing it for my own donk plays edit- er.. not to mean that your's was a bad play, I like it. |
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Re: Smoke Screens (Wynn 5/10)
I'll give a go at guessing your reasoning. button is more likely to have called your raise with a drawing hand than high cards. so on the flop there's a good chance he's betting a draw, maybe he can take it down and maybe he gets a free ride to the river if he gets called. you realize this and bet the turn to punish him. if you were heads up it could almost be a value bet with king high (!!).
the fly in the ointment is the BB, what does he have? very hard to put him on a hand playing this way, it's hard to put him on a draw with a flop check call, so I lean towards a made hand of some kind, probably pretty good but not great. would he play AK this way? it's possible I guess. I can't come up with a hand that would play the flop and turn this way. --turnipmonster |
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Re: Smoke Screens (Wynn 5/10)
Thats a weird play. I can't think of any reasonably played hand that the bb could have, so I'm just going to have to go out on a limb and say he's a fish. Other than that, I think the bb made two pair on the turn. That's the only thing i can come up with. If he made a set he needed to bet the turn hard to shut out everyone else. I think the button was on the flush draw, or mid to high pair and the ace pissed him off. And you have a flush. ace high
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Re: Smoke Screens (Wynn 5/10)
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so I'm just going to have to go out on a limb and say he's a fish. [/ QUOTE ] Nice read... ML4L |
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