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Old 10-04-2004, 03:40 PM
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Default The French contribution to America: Five billion Euro Dollars

One cliche that I get tired of reading on these pages is comments by xenophobic amercians saying things like what how dare the french not support us in the UN when we have stoped them from speaking german on two occasions.

It crossed my mind that well maybe there wouldnt even be a USA if it wernt for the french. I had no idea about there actual contribution to the USA in its war against the Brits.

Anyway this website seems to summarise it nicely.

what the frogs did for the yanks.
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Old 10-04-2004, 03:44 PM
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One cliche that I get tired of reading on these pages is comments by xenophobic amercians saying things like what how dare the french not support us in the UN when we have stoped them from speaking german on two occasions.

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I've read that other places but not on this site as I recall but possibly. I think you have an axe to grind with xenophobic americans and not necessarily posters on this forum.
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Old 10-04-2004, 09:52 PM
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Still counting ...
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Old 10-05-2004, 01:20 AM
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So nice.
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Old 10-05-2004, 01:46 AM
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Ok, I'm back on the French subject. There are books out that discuss this to some extent. I haven't found anything online that really goes into detail, but Time has a nice watered down version of the story. In short Benjamin Franklin was witty, charming, and a sex fiend. In France, he became a man of all show, and no substance, and he fit right in. The French loved him. He was labelled as the father of Philadelphia in America, and there are many historians that say his "charm" played a part in saving America during our fight for independence. If I find that book, I will post the ISBN, it's really good reading. It's kind of pathetic, but funny. I still can't believe that a mans ability to "charm" France played a vital role in creating this country. There are so many jokes I could make right now, but I will abstain. Still, we should be thankful.




A much watered down version. It's the individual, person on person, interactions that are ..... stunning.

http://www.time.com/time/2003/franklin/bffrance.html

"He stands in stark contrast to his sanctimonious and chauvinistic and mercantile countrymen, a model of what the French like most in their Americans: a skeptical, subtle faux naif with a sense of humor and a taste for culture and a deep appreciation for the supremacy of France."
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Old 10-05-2004, 04:26 AM
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Default Re: The French contribution to America: Five billion Euro Dollars

Actualy the "stoped them speaking german on two occasions" line is a direct lift from this forum.

There was a thread in which several posters expressed this sentiment.
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Old 10-05-2004, 11:56 PM
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Default Re: The French contribution to America: Five billion Euro Dollars

I agree, I've been lurking here for some time and have found the various jokes about France to be rather distasteful.
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Old 10-04-2004, 03:46 PM
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Do you know how little 5 Billion Euros is to a large prosperous country like France?

Very Little.

Just my 2 cents (the personal equivalent to 5 Billion Euros to France)
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Old 10-05-2004, 04:27 AM
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Do you know how little 5 Billion Euros is to a large prosperous country like France?

Very Little.

Just my 2 cents (the personal equivalent to 5 Billion Euros to France)

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This is just ignorant.
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Old 10-04-2004, 03:52 PM
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I've talked about this before. And I have said the French have bailed us out once before. The matter is a little more complicated that just staunch loyalty like many history books make them out to be. Benjamin Franklin, the man who was father of philadelphia in more ways than one, got along very well with the French. It's actually a very humorous annecdote, and I will post more later, i've got work to do!

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