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10-14-2004, 06:22 PM
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Deep stack theory
Tomorrow night I'm playing in a 5-10 NL game at the club where I usually play 1-2 NL. I know almost all of the players and play with them routinely in the smaller game. In any event, the club has set a min buy-in of $1000 and a max buy of $3000 (100 and 300 BBs, respectively).
It is my understanding that most players will probably buy in for the max, as I will. I expect to see between $20K and $30K on the table at any time, while a 1-2 table rarely sees more than $1500 in play. The stacks will be significantly deeper than those in the 1-2 game, where the average stack routinely is somewhere around 50 BBs. On occasion, one player might have more than 250 or 300 BBs in his stack (a couple hours after the game has started), but rarely if ever will more than one person be so deep. Here's my question: as a matter of general theory, how should the increased depth affect my overall strategy? I would hazard a guess that Axs will be worth a call more often, suited connectors will likely be more valuable, etc etc. Having said that, "draws are death" and a player can be charged much more heavily than in a game with shallow stacks. I also anticipate seeing less pre-flop all-ins (obviously; few people will push for say 2500 more with perhaps 200 in the pot), which will require more skillful post-flop play with big pairs and the like. Any commentary is welcome. Again, I know it's difficult to give sweeping suggestions without reference to hand specifics, but I'm looking for general theoretical concepts here. 
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#4
10-14-2004, 06:45 PM
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Re: Deep stack theory
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REPLIES: 1 USEFUL CONTRIBUTION: ZERO Thanks anyway, helpful M/HS P/NL poster! [/ QUOTE ] Wayfare's advice is probably the most useful advice he could possibly give. If you don't know how to play a deepstack at that level, why donate your money to that game?
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#5
10-14-2004, 09:11 PM
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Re: Deep stack theory
cj-
I didnt mean to come off sounding like a dick, so i am apoligizing if I did. i think i was responding to your response to wayfare, who gave an honest (albeit curt) response. I should have said: If your BR can handle it, or you can replenish it w/o much trouble then, sure, give it a shot. esp. since you have played w these guys before. no draws up front, (unless you have great posistion on a raiser in a multiway pot). play PP's from anywhere. remember, AA and KK are only one pair. this could save your stack. in a game that size I would limp with AA or KK from up front 95% of the time. bc like many live games i have seen at that size, if you raise UTG, you may get four/five callers and you are out of position which i think is worse than a whiffed limp reraise. dont hesitate to throw away TPGK if you either dont have position, or are against a good tricky/player. you wont make much money in this game with TP hands; sets, straights and flushes will bring in the cash. best of luck to you, fsuplayer oh yeah, check out ML4L, matt flynn's and el diablo's posts on higher NL, they are great.
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10-14-2004, 11:39 PM
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Re: Deep stack theory
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oh yeah, check out ML4L, matt flynn's and el diablo's posts on higher NL, they are great. [/ QUOTE ] also, check the older archives (high stakes holdem) for posts about the 10-10-20 game at lucky chances - tommy angelo and others had some great discussions back then.
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#8
10-14-2004, 06:44 PM
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Re: Deep stack theory
agreed - this is pretty basic stuff you are asking. I wouldn't feel at ALL safe with $3000 on the table, and I think I have a better understanding of some of the concepts you are asking about.
but again, good luck. -SmileyEH
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#9
10-14-2004, 06:54 PM
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Re: Deep stack theory
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agreed - this is pretty basic stuff you are asking. I wouldn't feel at ALL safe with $3000 on the table, and I think I have a better understanding of some of the concepts you are asking about. but again, good luck. -SmileyEH [/ QUOTE ] Then why not share your better understanding?
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