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Old 04-02-2005, 07:55 PM
Schneids Schneids is offline
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Default The answer should be obvious, but lets just make sure

You play a hand where you open in LP with AQ. A sb calls with AJ.

Flop is low cards he checkraises you you 3 bet he calls.

He check calls a jack turn and again check calls a blank river to win the pot.


A rotation or two later you have a situation where you are in LP and he's in his BB (from past experiencing extending beyond these last 20 minutes at the table). You know he's a loose defender of his BB. The SB is tight. Do you try to steal with A3o?
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Old 04-02-2005, 07:59 PM
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Default Re: The answer should be obvious, but lets just make sure

from the co no, from the button yes
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Old 04-02-2005, 08:22 PM
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Default Re: The answer should be obvious, but lets just make sure

if the button is tight too, why not? althought i am not sure how many are at table.
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Old 04-02-2005, 08:35 PM
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Default Re: The answer should be obvious, but lets just make sure

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if the button is tight too, why not? althought i am not sure how many are at table.

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Lets say the button is tight and will need to wake up with a premium hand to 3 bet you.
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Old 04-02-2005, 08:53 PM
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Default Re: The answer should be obvious, but lets just make sure

that being the case, i do it, the villain you describe is passive on turn/river. you can capitalize on that.
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Old 04-05-2005, 06:17 PM
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Default Re: The answer should be obvious, but lets just make sure

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if the button is tight too, why not? althought i am not sure how many are at table.

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Lets say the button is tight and will need to wake up with a premium hand to 3 bet you.

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This is why I think it is the CO. As I said in an earlier post, from the button I sometimes open sometimes pass with this hand.
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Old 04-04-2005, 07:12 AM
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Default Re: The answer should be obvious, but lets just make sure

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from the co no, from the button yes

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I would assume nothing other then weak tightness. But, do weak tighties of this nature check fold unimproved, or check call unimproved, must know more about this opponet. But,ovbiusoly we must assume passiveness, because a terribl passiv weak tight bitch that hand.

I would raise with the majoity of any two cards there against such an opponet from the BB, assuming the Sb is not a tough opponet

yes of course i raise A3o on the button folded around, and raise A3o on the cutoff if the button is weak tight, otherwise i fold.
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Old 04-04-2005, 07:14 AM
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Default Re: The answer should be obvious, but lets just make sure

Ps, now i read comments on threads, this is good discussion. Let's continue.
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Old 04-02-2005, 08:31 PM
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Default Re: The answer should be obvious, but lets just make sure

If you limp the SB might come along. If you raise, you most likely get it HU against a weaker hand, with position.
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Old 04-02-2005, 09:14 PM
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Default Re: The answer should be obvious, but lets just make sure

I don't.

I would rather have something like JQ than A3o here, because I am guessing I am not going to showdown against a hand an unimproved A3 beats (so JQ is just as good those times that villain will fold the flop or turn). If an ace comes, I will probably only get action from a better hand. If I hit my 3, same thing. With JQ at least you have two cards to hit and have the chance of getting action when your hand is good.

A3o just seems like a chip spewing hand here.
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