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QUAD KINGS on flop. how do u extract the most chips???!!!
This tournament just strated and i'm SB with poket Kings
i hit quad kings on the flop. how do i extract the most chips out of this guy? PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t30 (9 handed) converter MP3 (t1530) CO (t1450) Button (t2230) SB (t1420) Hero (t1430) UTG (t1640) UTG+1 (t3760) MP1 (t1460) MP2 (t1270) Preflop: Hero is BB with K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]. UTG posts a blind of t30. UTG+1 calls t30, MP1 calls t30, MP2 calls t30, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, Button calls t30, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t200</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, MP1 calls t170, MP2 folds, Button folds. Flop: (t520) 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font> NOW WHAT?? Final Pot: t520 |
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Re: QUAD KINGS on flop. how do u extract the most chips???!!!
Check the flop. If villain doesn't bet, you may eventually have to.
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Re: QUAD KINGS on flop. how do u extract the most chips???!!!
There's a thread about this in the NL forum I think.
I thought it was even linked to from the FAQ but I can't find it at the moment. Anyone got a linky? |
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Re: QUAD KINGS on flop. how do u extract the most chips???!!!
I'd probably check the flop and the turn and hope that someone catches a piece of the flop/turn/river, otherwise I guess put in a small bet that you're sure will be called.
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Re: QUAD KINGS on flop. how do u extract the most chips???!!!
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I'd probably check the flop and the turn and hope that someone catches a piece of the flop/turn/river, otherwise I guess put in a small bet that you're sure will be called. [/ QUOTE ] |
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Re: QUAD KINGS on flop. how do u extract the most chips???!!!
I have to disagree on the small bet. Definitely check the flop, and turn. Go all-in on river, if you dont get called, vocalize your pleasure of not getting called to bluff a bluff! Maybe next time you get a super strong hand they will call you on your all in, you may also get called if someone did hit a pair thinking you are bluffing a missed board.
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Re: QUAD KINGS on flop. how do u extract the most chips???!!!
Ugh, you guys are SO simple minded. Lead out with a bet that appears to be a continuation/probe bet. He'll be thinking to himself "he doesn't have a King, if he had a King, why would he bet????"
He'll push with his pocket 10's, guaranteed, w00t! p.s. You could push all-in too, make it look like you don't want to be called. This is if you're against a thinking player who you believe might try to play sherriff against you. Then again, most of the time a slowplay so they can catch up a little is the best option. But being tricky by betting can throw them off too. |
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Re: QUAD KINGS on flop. how do u extract the most chips???!!!
ckeck the flop, and I would probably ck the turn as well if need be and bet some small amount on river.
You have to hope that he hits something on turn or will make a move. |
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Re: QUAD KINGS on flop. how do u extract the most chips???!!!
Be the villain. You get reraised and you call and the flop comes KKx and they check. SCARY.
You gotta bet the flop strong just like you would any other time, you'll really put an opponent with 99 or something here to the test. I guarantee that you will get more value out of your hands by doing this. More terrible cards can come like a queen or an ace that can kill a lot of the action you can generate on the flop as well, so you really dont want to get a free card when there are hands that will pay you off now. Bet like 350. It looks like a standard bet but it also gives your opponent the impression that if he jams it on you he has folding equity. To all of you who say check the flop, you need to think of each hand as part of a bigger picture.... One where you are hopefully raising and betting a lot preflop and on the flop and where your opponents will have trouble dealing with your bets. You let people get away easy by checking this flop. If you are a lot shorter stacked than this, fine, check the flop, let your opponent pot commit himself. But in this case, make a big pot for your big hand. -Jason |
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Re: QUAD KINGS on flop. how do u extract the most chips???!!!
This is incredibly buyin dependent.
In a monkey-donk low stakes game, a limp call from MP1 looks like some loose passive tool. So I make a stupid flop lead for 100 (which he absolutely calls), then check the turn so that the gears in his head start thinking he can win the pot. If he bets, I call and lead the river. If he checks I lead the river stronger for 300. IF its a reasonable buy in game, say 50+, I would make a pretty strong flop lead and see what I can get 99-JJ to pay me. You'll be hard pressed to get another dime from AQ type hands, so here just listen to strassa's post and bet hard. Conveniently, the best way to disguise the nuts here is to get more money in the pot. Everett |
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