TT - Did I misplay anywhere here?

JoshuaD · #1 02-27-2005, 11:42 AM

I don't have any reads this hand, playerview just crashed, and I couldn't get it open in time.

Party Poker 2/4 Hold'em (10 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is Button with T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
1 fold, UTG+1 calls, UTG+2 calls, MP1 calls, 3 folds, Hero raises, 1 fold, BB 3-bets, UTG+1 calls, UTG+2 calls, MP1 calls, Hero caps, BB calls, UTG+1 calls, UTG+2 calls, MP1 calls.

Flop: (20.50 SB) 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (5 players)
BB checks, UTG+1 checks, UTG+2 checks, MP1 bets, Hero raises, BB folds, UTG+1 calls, UTG+2 folds, MP1 calls.

Turn: (13.25 BB) K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (3 players)
UTG+1 checks, MP1 bets, Hero calls, UTG+1 calls.

River: (16.25 BB) 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (3 players)
UTG+1 checks, MP1 bets, Hero calls, UTG+1 folds.

Final Pot: 18.25 BB

Comments on all streets please.

brettbrettr · #2 02-27-2005, 11:50 AM

I wouldn't have capped a BB 3-bet. The turn is weird, can you fold here? Seems to me that a king would have c/r'd you, not sure raising again is the right play either. Dunno, looks ok I guess.

brettbrettr · #3 02-27-2005, 11:50 AM

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I wouldn't have capped a BB 3-bet. The turn is weird, can you fold here? Seems to me that a king would have c/r'd you, not sure raising again is the right play either. Dunno, looks ok I guess.

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worst. post.ever.

JoshuaD · #4 02-27-2005, 11:52 AM

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I wouldn't have capped a BB 3-bet.

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I wouldn't HU or 3way, but I figure I've got more than 20% equity here.

Bill Smith · #5 02-27-2005, 12:44 PM

Except for the pf cap, this all looks good. You should pick up a good read on MP1 regarding his stop and go, but usually it means a made hand that isn't trip kings.

JoshuaD · #6 02-27-2005, 12:58 PM

I'm surprised everyone is advocating not capping PF, I thought that was one of the easier descisions I made. What hands are you putting the limpers on that I don't have my equity to cap? If I was SB, I could see what you were saying, but I've got great position too.

prayformojo · #7 02-27-2005, 01:17 PM

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I'm surprised everyone is advocating not capping PF, I thought that was one of the easier descisions I made.

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My first reaction to the pre-flop cap was negative as well. On reflection, though, I'm pretty sure you have more than 20% equity against almost any range of hands that doesn't include an overpair (barring one of your tens sitting in another pocket).

Elizabeth · #8 02-27-2005, 01:22 PM

The pf cap buts 20SB in the pot. Now imagine that you get the best situation on the flop: you have an overpair, and a bet comes from your immediate right and you can raise.

You're still giving everyone 11.5:1, and they're correct to call with overcards. Even 1 overcard is a marginal call once a couple people call. This isn't what you want with tens.

Basically there are a ton of cards that can beat you, and you are making the pot so big that you won't be able to control the hand.

prayformojo · #9 02-27-2005, 01:29 PM

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Basically there are a ton of cards that can beat you, and you are making the pot so big that you won't be able to control the hand.

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Without the cap the pot will be 15BB. With a bet to hero's right and hero's raise, he'll still be giving the first caller 9:1, and any subsequent callers 10:1 or more. Isn't this a time to give up a small opportunity for protection to push an edge with pot equity?

afk · #10 02-27-2005, 02:06 PM

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Without the cap the pot will be 15BB. With a bet to hero's right and hero's raise, he'll still be giving the first caller 9:1, and any subsequent callers 10:1 or more. Isn't this a time to give up a small opportunity for protection to push an edge with pot equity?

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If hero had flopped an overpair I'd agree with you. With 5 players seeing the flop for that many bets I would be surprised if hero is ahead. I don't think hero has all that much pot equity.