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89o
I have a new db going on here, and just started at this table, so I don't know much of anyone here. Except I've seen the co show a lot of aggression in a few hands.
Party Poker 2/4 Hold'em (8 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx Preflop: Hero is SB with 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]. UTG calls, UTG+1 calls, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, CO calls, Button calls, Hero completes, BB checks. Flop: (6 SB) 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(6 players)</font> <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, BB folds, UTG calls, UTG+1 calls, <font color="#CC3333">CO raises</font>, Button folds, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font> |
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Re: 89o
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I have a new db going on here, and just started at this table, so I don't know much of anyone here. Except I've seen the co show a lot of aggression in a few hands. Party Poker 2/4 Hold'em (8 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx Preflop: Hero is SB with 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]. UTG calls, UTG+1 calls, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, CO calls, Button calls, Hero completes, BB checks. Flop: (6 SB) 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(6 players)</font> <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, BB folds, UTG calls, UTG+1 calls, <font color="#CC3333">CO raises</font>, Button folds, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font> [/ QUOTE ] After the flop play has been discussed, here's the rest of the hand: , UTG calls, UTG+1 calls, CO calls. Turn: (9 BB) Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font> Hero checks, UTG checks, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 bets</font>, CO calls, Hero calls, UTG calls. River: (13 BB) 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font> <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, UTG calls, UTG+1 calls, CO calls. Final Pot: 17 BB I find my river bet humorous. |
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Re: 89o
The flop 3-bet is to clean up some outs correct?
Did you consider calling the flop raise so you could attempt a check-raise on the turn if you hit a pair? River should just be check/don't overcall. I might consider calling a single bet but UTG+2 most likely hit the Queen. |
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Re: 89o
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attempt a check-raise on the turn if you hit a pair? [/ QUOTE ] An interesting thought for sure. I just thought it would be more important to try to clear out some donk calling hands like A9 or J8 or something like that. |
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Re: 89o
Just a suggestion, 3-betting the flop is probably best though. Folding better 8's and 9's is nice and if they call it's for value.
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Re: 89o
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Just a suggestion, 3-betting the flop is probably best though. Folding better 8's and 9's is nice and if they call it's for value. [/ QUOTE ] Actually knowing these hands make this hand very funny. 1 limper had A [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]9 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 2nd had K [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]Q [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] and the CO had T [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]T [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] |
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Re: 89o
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The flop 3-bet is to clean up some outs correct? [/ QUOTE ] The three bet is much more for value, than any outs were going to clean up with a check raise, after the players behind have already put money in. Sarge[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] |
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Re: 89o
Definitely. I think this one is close 'cause can't count 5 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] or T [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] as full outs. But, still +ev with 3 others in.
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Re: 89o
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[ QUOTE ] The flop 3-bet is to clean up some outs correct? [/ QUOTE ] The three bet is much more for value, than any outs were going to clean up with a check raise, after the players behind have already put money in. Sarge[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] [/ QUOTE ] I play much more 3/6 than 2/4 and realize 2/4 is much looser, but is a 3-bet really for value when we face the ep players with two more cold? Now if they are two big fish that's a different story. The flop lead I like "in this case" because you list the CO as the more aggressive player so we are looking to trap players which worked. However I have done this often in the past and when it's the BB or EP player raising it really sucks to be isolated with a draw so it's always a risky proposition. Generally if the table is pasive I lead but with aggresive tags that will raise in big pots "to clean up outs" etc. I tend to check and hope. |
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Re: 89o
Cleaning up some outs?
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