this hand made no sense; i am a fish

#1 10-30-2005, 09:40 AM

no reads cause its ub. in fact as far as i know ive never played in this level at ub before.

I was trying to checkraise the PFR on the flop, but someone else took the lead so i figured i should just wait for the turn?

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Preflop: Hero is SB with 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
UTG calls, MP raises, 2 folds, Hero calls, BB calls, UTG calls.

Flop: (8 SB) 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (4 players)
Hero checks, BB checks, UTG bets, MP calls, Hero calls, BB calls.

Turn: (6 BB) T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (4 players)
Hero bets, BB calls, UTG calls, MP calls.

River: (10 BB) 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (4 players)
Hero bets, BB folds, UTG raises, MP folds, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 14 BB

KeysrSoze · #2 10-30-2005, 09:46 AM

Fold pf, anyone?

#3 10-30-2005, 09:50 AM

any chance we can just ignore preflop here?

didnt think so..... [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img] [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img] [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]

BatsShadow · #4 10-30-2005, 09:59 AM

Do you also fold 78s or 89s in this situation?

Aaron_ · #5 10-30-2005, 10:08 AM

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Do you also fold 78s or 89s in this situation?

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Hands like that play best in unraised, multiway pots. This one is neither. Really tighten up in a raised pot even if you have position.

shant · #6 10-30-2005, 09:37 PM

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Do you also fold 78s or 89s in this situation?

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Hands like that play best in unraised, multiway pots. This one is neither. Really tighten up in a raised pot even if you have position.

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Those hands play fine in multiway raised pots. I don't agree with the preflop call in this hand though.

#7 10-30-2005, 10:09 AM

without reads, yes and yes. every time.

if anyone else had posted this i would have berated them for not folding preflop and ignored the rest of the hand...

but i actually dont play too seriously on this site, and forgot that i had played this badly preflop when i posted the hand, the rest of which i actually found fairly interesting

BatsShadow · #8 10-30-2005, 10:17 AM

I guess I've played too much 6max lately.

To Aaron: I do know about folding to raises, I was just thinking that the blind softens the blow of playing this draw heavy hand.

Forget the SB then, how many players do we need total to play these from the BB?

Aaron_ · #9 10-30-2005, 01:09 PM

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I guess I've played too much 6max lately.

To Aaron: I do know about folding to raises, I was just thinking that the blind softens the blow of playing this draw heavy hand.

Forget the SB then, how many players do we need total to play these from the BB?

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I think you're right that the blinds soften the blow, I just don't think that they do often enough. The other problem is that since you have a preflop raisor, the limpers get timid (especially with the PF aggressor in LP here). These weak players won't call down as much with marginal hands and weak draws when you make your hand.

What do you think?

Aaron_ · #10 10-30-2005, 10:03 AM

Please fold this preflop OOP (and in position).. but I'll ignore it.

I have to put UTG on a set of fives or threes here unless he's very agro post flop. Since my odds are close anyway, I'm folding the flop.