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TT late position, suggestions
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Preflop: Hero is Button with T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]. <font color="#CC3333">UTG raises</font>, UTG+1 calls, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, MP2 calls, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG caps</font>, UTG+1 calls, MP2 calls, Hero calls. Flop: (17.50 SB) J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font> <font color="#CC3333">UTG bets</font>, UTG+1 calls, MP2 folds, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, UTG calls, UTG+1 calls. Turn: (11.75 BB) 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font> <font color="#CC3333">UTG bets</font>, UTG+1 folds, Hero calls. River: (13.75 BB) 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> <font color="#CC3333">UTG bets</font>, Hero calls. Final Pot: 15.75 BB I thought utg had big pair or AKs when he 4 bet pf. However he only called my raise on flop. The utg bet out on turn, I picked up open ended str draw, probably I should have raised there, and could have gotten a free show down if I miss the draw. |
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Re: TT late position, suggestions
I would call the flop and, depending on UTG, consider raising the turn with the intention of checking the river through unimproved. Whatever the turn action though I don't think the flop raise is a good idea.
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Re: TT late position, suggestions
Without a read on opponent, I play the same. I think that you are very probably behind once he bets the turn, but you have some outs and the pot is decent. I think you are ahead more than 7% of the time on the river, so need to call.
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Re: TT late position, suggestions
I think you're behind on the turn, but you can't fold having picked up the draw. What does this do to my river decision? Sure, its one bet in a big pot, but I still think you're behind here. QQ/KK I'd say.
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#5
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Re: TT late position, suggestions
I don't like raising the turn. If you get 3 bet you are going to be stuck in the position of putting 3BB into this pot with the worst hand.
I am not sure about the flop. I think with our position it is okay to just call and make sure one bet goes in on each street-if UTG is going crazy with AK we don't really want to slow him down, and unless that is the case he has us beat. At 18.5-1 though we have to draw to our set+BDSD so we can't fold to the first bet or to the three-bet. I think the river call is close but I like it considering the pot size and the semi-strange betting pattern of your opponent. |
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Re: TT late position, suggestions
I thought raising the flop would clarify the situation a little. Since he didnt reraise I ruled out AA and KK, and maybe put him on AK or smaller pair. However, when he bet out again on the turn, I was was fairly certain I was probably beat, but I picked up 8 outs for the straight, and my 2 J outs could be good too.
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Re: TT late position, suggestions
[ QUOTE ]
I don't like raising the turn. If you get 3 bet you are going to be stuck in the position of putting 3BB into this pot with the worst hand. [/ QUOTE ] I wouldn't expect a 3-bet on the turn. The 8 is a scary a card for UTG. Tough w/o reads.... To the OP - what was your read of these players?? |
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Re: TT late position, suggestions
If I had a read on him at the time, I don't remember what it was. This hand is from awhile back, prior to my using GT+. On checking PT stats I see that he is(TPP)18%/3%pfr/ 1.5 agression for 270 hands.
When he bet the turn I was assuming that he probably had a big pair, and was hoping for the str outs to come in on the rvr. |
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Re: TT late position, suggestions
QQ?
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Re: TT late position, suggestions
I can't really argue with your play much. Your opponent took a weird line if he did have a big pair. Its tough to say what he might have since you have no read.
I do like the idea of raising the turn if you can be fairly sure you won't get 3-bet. I wouldn't be suprised if your opponent had AK AQ, or AJ of spades. There is no way you can fold at any point in this hand. |
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