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$11: Two 33 bubble hands - Is this why I never finish 1st?
Hi,
These were back to back hands. Chip leader generally limps pf and very aggressive after seeing the flop. Hand 1: Villians's raise was out of character. Is this a fold given chip stacks even if villian had only called? PartyPoker - NL Texas Hold'em $10 Buy-in + $1 Entry Fee Tournament | Level: 5 - 4 players (Converter: PGC) Chip Counts: Button: 2885 Chips SB: 900 Chips <font color="red">Hero: 1395 Chips</font> UTG: 2820 Chips Hero is BB with 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] Blinds are 75/150 PreFlop <font color="blue">UTG folds</font>, <font color="red">Button RAISES ($600)</font> <font color="blue">SB folds</font>, <font color="blue">Hero ????</font> Hand 2: Is this one of the come-over-the-top shoving situations? PartyPoker - NL Texas Hold'em $10 Buy-in + $1 Entry Fee Tournament | Level: 5 - 4 players (Converter: PGC) Chip Counts: Button: 825 Chips <font color="red">Hero: 1245 Chips</font> BB: 2820 Chips UTG: 3110 Chips Hero is SB with 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] Blinds are 75/150 PreFlop <font color="green">UTG Calls</font>, <font color="blue">Button folds</font> <font color="blue">Hero ???</font>, <font color="green">BB checks</font> I ended up folding both hands pf. Maybe this is one of the many reasons I never get a 1st place finish (over a meaningless sample size [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] ) Were these two hands standard? Thanks. |
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Re: $11: Two 33 bubble hands - Is this why I never finish 1st?
First one is an easy fold. The second one, I can see myself pushing. If you have any read at all that he might fold this, then I push.
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Re: $11: Two 33 bubble hands - Is this why I never finish 1st?
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First one is an easy fold. The second one, I can see myself pushing. If you have any read at all that he might fold this, then I push. [/ QUOTE ] I agree. |
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Re: $11: Two 33 bubble hands - Is this why I never finish 1st?
The big stack at an 11 is almost never trying to trap you in this situation, he has a mediocre hand and just wants to see a flop. You can count on him folding 9 times out of 10 here. So basically it's just slightly riskier than trying to steal BB's blind, with a bigger reward. I'm pushing every time here.
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Re: $11: Two 33 bubble hands - Is this why I never finish 1st?
1) Easy, easy fold.
2) You're not going to get the bigstack to fold anywhere near 9 times out of 10. He's got you covered by 2000 chips, as does the BB. With the shortstack hanging around, I think the case can be made for completing here. In a typical 11, better spots than this will come up. My guess is that this push would be called 1 out of 3 times at an 11. |
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Re: $11: Two 33 bubble hands - Is this why I never finish 1st?
First one insta fold
Second one if utg has been limping a lot push otherwise check. |
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Re: $11: Two 33 bubble hands - Is this why I never finish 1st?
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1) Easy, easy fold. 2) You're not going to get the bigstack to fold anywhere near 9 times out of 10. He's got you covered by 2000 chips, as does the BB. With the shortstack hanging around, I think the case can be made for completing here. In a typical 11, better spots than this will come up. My guess is that this push would be called 1 out of 3 times at an 11. [/ QUOTE ] Complete just to see three overcards come up? Are trips going to pay you off often enough here to make completing worthwhile? Yeah 9 times of 10 was definately an exaggeration, but I do think that 1 of 3 is too low. I always people at the 11's folding frequently after a limp. I spose I just see not pushing as not playing for first |
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