Thoughts on Empire Poker and the Zoo

BusterStacks · #1 05-06-2005, 02:12 PM

Ok, this is really getting out of control. First of all, those of you who are debating whether or not it's safe to keep money on Empire are truly imsinformed. Empire (or any IGM) skin that has suspended a player for having multiple and thus breaking the terms and conditions of the site has NEVER confiscated that players money.

Second, I read through the other thread of getting to the bottom of the closures, and it seems like there is a good case for each of them. Who is getting closed? Blonus whores and people who don't play there? It should be obvious that if you sign up for a site with the intention of whoring it, you don't get to complain when they catch you.

Thirdly, and this goes to everyone, rakeback is not "about to end". I have no doubt it WILL end, probably somday soon, but there are no indications it will be this month, or even this year. iGM skins are still the most profitable even without rakeback. And you know who is to blame when rakeback does come to a screeching halt? People getting rakeback in the first place. Sure we all do it, but we are not entitled to it, and I think some people forget that. You guys act like Party will not get your business anymore if they stop paying affiliates. Where else are you going to go? Full Tilt? Lol, not likely. The worst players have always been on Party and will be long after your rakeback check is a fond memory.

It's not like one skin can "go crazy" and the others will not. It's all the same network!!! It's like what we saw with PokerNOW: that site literally went out of business and not ONE person lost what was in their account. Those of you who remember Zero Rake should be thankful for that.

Everyone just relax. Nothing is "about to happen" and the sky is not falling.

J.R. · #2 05-06-2005, 02:15 PM

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It should be obvious that if you sign up for a site with the intention of whoring it, you don't get to complain when they catch you.

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why is it wrong for me to have one account and to use that account to take advatage of the whorring opportunities empire offers. Empire made an offer I agreed to, the terms of which are I play x raked hands and I get a bonus. now all of the sudden there are extra terms not part of the original "agreement" or I have doen soemthign wrong by "whoring" them in just accepting and completing the terms of their offer?

BusterStacks · #3 05-06-2005, 02:20 PM

The point of these bonuses is to give players an incentive to play poker there. If you are playing strictly for the bonuses, you are a detriment to the business, and Empire is certainly a business. This agreement you speak of is not legally binding anyway, and I suspect that if you were in charge of Empire Poker you would do the same thing. I know I would.

PokerBob · #4 05-06-2005, 02:27 PM

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The point of these bonuses is to give players an incentive to play poker there. If you are playing strictly for the bonuses, you are a detriment to the business, and Empire is certainly a business. This agreement you speak of is not legally binding anyway, and I suspect that if you were in charge of Empire Poker you would do the same thing. I know I would.

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I agree, but I don't see how they could freeze my account or deny me a bonus that I am currently registered for. I can, however, see them denying any FUTUTRE bonuses. Which is basically saying, "We no longer want your business."

BusterStacks · #5 05-06-2005, 02:32 PM

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I agree, but I don't see how they could freeze my account or deny me a bonus that I am currently registered for. I can, however, see them denying any FUTUTRE bonuses. Which is basically saying, "We no longer want your business."

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Yea I agree that is kind of shady, maybe they wanted to make sure you got the point? [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img] I don't claim to know anything about the inner workings of IGM other than it is run by chimpanzees.

PokerBob · #6 05-06-2005, 02:34 PM

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I don't claim to know anything about the inner workings of IGM other than it is run by chimpanzees.

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vnh

William · #7 05-06-2005, 02:36 PM

Dude, we are here to complain about Empire. stop bothering with your "can't you see they are doing what is best for them" attitude?

Where you the nerd with squared glasses back in school? [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

CORed · #8 05-06-2005, 05:19 PM

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Shame on you. You have grievously insulted every chimpanzee in the world.

grimel · #9 05-09-2005, 02:24 AM

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The point of these bonuses is to give players an incentive to play poker there. If you are playing strictly for the bonuses,

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The bonuses have done EXACTLY what Empire intended. Do you not see the irony of giving a bonus to GIVE AN INCENTIVE to play a site then complaining people play for the bonus?

In the interest of full disclosure, I do NOT have accounts at any Party skin ONLY Party and I can only tolerate Party long enough to clear a bonus and throw Party a few hours of micro limit play above bonus clearing.

Nepenthe666 · #10 05-09-2005, 06:51 AM

what is chip-dumping?