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Play this flop for me...
Party .5/1.
Table was fairly normal, this hand was an exception. PREFLOP: Hero has Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] UTG+2. <font color="#666666"> 1 fold </font> , UTG+1 calls, Hero calls, <font color="red"> MP1 raises </font>, <font color="#666666"> 1 fold </font>, <font color="red"> MP3 3 bets (all in) </font>, <font color="#666666"> 2 folds </font>, SB calls, BB calls, <font color="blue">[All in MP3 says "fvck PP"] </font>, everyone calls the raises back. FLOP: Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (6 players (1 all in), 18SBs) <font color="red"> SB bets </font>, <font color="red"> BB raises </font>, UTG+1 calls, Hero... |
#2
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Re: Play this flop for me...
call and reevaluate on the turn.
both SB and BB probably have a weaker Q or a flush draw. reads on these individual players would help. I think the only thing you would worry about is KQ or a set unless one of these players is the type that will limp AQ in this situation. |
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Re: Play this flop for me...
I chuck this when it's 2 back to me preflop.
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Re: Play this flop for me...
Was the 3-bet a full 3-bet? Fold. (If it was like a 2 and a 1/4 bet than calling is fine.)
I probably fold the flop. MP1 still hasn't acted yet, and a cap seems likely. (MP1 3-bets, BB caps.) You don't have any backdoor draws, so someone should have you beat. |
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Re: Play this flop for me...
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I chuck this when it's 2 back to me preflop. [/ QUOTE ] I disagree. The 3 bettor was all in and tilting. Even if someone does have a premium hand here I don't mind paying 3, or even 4 bets to see a 6 way flop with QJs. Too much monster potential for me. Would you fold this hand in the BB if was 2 bets to call and you knew you'd get 6 way action on the flop? |
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Re: Play this flop for me...
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[ QUOTE ] I chuck this when it's 2 back to me preflop. [/ QUOTE ] I disagree. The 3 bettor was all in and tilting. Even if someone does have a premium hand here I don't mind paying 3, or even 4 bets to see a 6 way flop with QJs. Too much monster potential for me. Would you fold this hand in the BB if was 2 bets to call and you knew you'd get 6 way action on the flop? [/ QUOTE ] I probably would throw this away in the BB if it was 2 back to me, yes. That said, one of the things I really hate about the way this hand is setting up is that we're in the middle...EP or LP it's going to be much easier to play postflop than if you find yourself in the situation that you, uh, did...find...yourself in, with bettors on all sides of you and no idea where you stand because of the all-in tilter. |
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I think the only thing you would worry about is KQ or a set unless one of these players is the type that will limp AQ in this situation. [/ QUOTE ] 2 of the 3 players to act ahead of me, including the raiser, were in the blinds. Not many players are capping AQo out of the blinds, not may are folding it either at this level. |
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Re: Play this flop for me...
Fold. Get away from that hand. I can only see trouble coming...
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Re: Play this flop for me...
*grunch*
Raise the flop. With 6 players in you cannot really put BB on a stronger hand. In fact they are likly betting a draw or weak queen so this is a great chance to cut down on the number of players drawing against you. |
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Re: Play this flop for me...
preflop is fine when the player is 3-betting to go all-in
the flop is tough because both players called a 3-bet so AQ is possible. this is a tough spot without reads especially with the flush draw (which UTG looks like he might have), so you're looking at 2 outs and you're not getting odds. i'd need some postflop reads to not fold this right now. |
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