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Old 08-10-2005, 10:59 AM
sexdrugsmoney sexdrugsmoney is offline
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Default Mason: 2+2 Book Binding changes in 2005?

Hi Mason,

I've noticed recently that 2+2 books printed in 2005 seem alot tighter bound than their 2004 editions.

Was this a conscious decision?

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SDM
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Old 08-11-2005, 04:43 AM
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Default Re: Mason: 2+2 Book Binding changes in 2005?

Bump. [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]
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Old 08-11-2005, 06:02 AM
Mason Malmuth Mason Malmuth is offline
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Default Re: Mason: 2+2 Book Binding changes in 2005?

Binding is something that we are always working on, and having books bound tightly is something we strive for.

MM
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Old 08-11-2005, 09:18 AM
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Default Re: Mason: 2+2 Book Binding changes in 2005?

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Binding is something that we are always working on, and having books bound tightly is something we strive for.

MM

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My honest opinion Mason was that the 2004 editions were alot nicer than the rigid 2005 editions.

Unfortunately the new tightly bound 2005 editions don't "open" as much as their predecessors, and this not only results in more spine creases but I assume the probability of pages falling out in the long run may also be increased.

It is for these reasons that I thought maybe you changed printers, to cut costs, yet I'll concede it was probably naive of me to think you'd tell me even if that was the case.

Anyway, thanks.

Cheers,
SDM
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Old 08-11-2005, 12:17 PM
Mason Malmuth Mason Malmuth is offline
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Default Re: Mason: 2+2 Book Binding changes in 2005?

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Unfortunately the new tightly bound 2005 editions don't "open" as much as their predecessors, and this not only results in more spine creases but I assume the probability of pages falling out in the long run may also be increased.


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Just the opposite is correct.

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It is for these reasons that I thought maybe you changed printers, to cut costs

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As we have stated before, we have gone to a different, much more expensive glue (that is also much more difficult to apply). This glue is far more flexible and musch stronger than standard "hot melt" book binding glue. Thus our recent printings can withstand much more abuse than what is normal for books in their class.

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Old 08-12-2005, 11:22 AM
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Default Re: Mason: 2+2 Book Binding changes in 2005?

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Unfortunately the new tightly bound 2005 editions don't "open" as much as their predecessors, and this not only results in more spine creases but I assume the probability of pages falling out in the long run may also be increased.


[/ QUOTE ]

Just the opposite is correct.

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It is for these reasons that I thought maybe you changed printers, to cut costs

[/ QUOTE ]

As we have stated before, we have gone to a different, much more expensive glue (that is also much more difficult to apply). This glue is far more flexible and musch stronger than standard "hot melt" book binding glue. Thus our recent printings can withstand much more abuse than what is normal for books in their class.

MM

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Thanks for explaining the 'glue' thing Mason.

I'm sure the positives outweigh the negatives but the books are alot more rigid now with some of the words closer to the middle of the book, just'll take a little getting used to I guess.

Cheers,
SDM
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Old 08-12-2005, 02:05 PM
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Default Re: Mason: 2+2 Book Binding changes in 2005?

Fedex Kinkos will do a nice spiral binding on them for
about $6 each. I did it to both of the HOH books and
they are much easier to read now. I can open to a
page and lay it next to my computer and it stays open
to that page without having to keep a hand on it.

For technical books I think a spiral binding is the
best way to go.
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Old 08-12-2005, 04:22 PM
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Default Re: Mason: 2+2 Book Binding changes in 2005?

A serious idea for new 2+2 releases: Limited special spiral bound editions, hand-signed and numbered (by author & publisher). Sell at 4-5x regular cover price. Sounds crazy...but they will sell.
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Old 08-27-2005, 10:41 AM
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Default Re: Mason: 2+2 Book Binding changes in 2005?

I sure hope there are changes. I would always go back and forth to the starting hand section in SSHE and after 2 months of just turning to that page it ripped. It's not like I even abused the book and I had to tape the page back in. [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]
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Old 08-27-2005, 11:08 AM
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Default Re: Mason: 2+2 Book Binding changes in 2005?

all i know about the binding on your books is this:

i have a copy of HE for adv players that i purchased over a year ago. the binding on it is amazing. i can open it and the spine doesnt crease. both harrington books i preordered so i have the first prints. if i open them too far the spine creases bad, and i run the risk of pages falling out or anything else ruining the book. it kind of makes then harder to read
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