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AJo 8 Handed
Whilst I welcome comments about what i might have done better here I am interested in what you think my opponent could have done differently to play this better and with less risk.
Stars 18 Seater low limit, 8 left, blinds are 100/200, ante 25 I am in 3rd position and no one has entered the pot yet.... Important stacks Mackthefork 2850 SB 3100 I have A [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] J [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] and i make it 450 to go (I know this is small but I wanted calls from weaker aces, that was my thinking anyways) All fold to SB who calls, BB folds also (pot is now 1300 and I have it heads up) Flop is 2 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 5 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 6 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] SB Checks, I push in my remaining 2400, he calls immediately and shows A [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] K [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] Pot is now 6100 Two blanks come next and i go (very quietly, in thoughtfulness not in anger). Looking back there is not much I would do differently, I have good reason to believe I am ahead and that I have the best draw. What does anyone think. Regards and thanks in advance Mack |
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Re: AJo 8 Handed
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Important stacks Mackthefork 2850 SB 3100 I have A J and i make it 450 to go (I know this is small but I wanted calls from weaker aces, that was my thinking anyways) [/ QUOTE ] You don't want callers here. You should go for the T600 and try and take it down right there. Or some would say you should fold, I wouldn't be willing to argue against them without being at the table. [ QUOTE ] All fold to SB who calls, BB folds also (pot is now 1300 and I have it heads up) [/ QUOTE ] The SB should have bet before the flop, and considering stack sizes, he should probably have pushed. [ QUOTE ] SB Checks, I push in my remaining 2400, he calls immediately and shows A K [/ QUOTE ] Why not take the free card here? There is really no need to push. This was a leak I used to have. Under FTOP he is making a mistake if he gives you the free card, but that means you have to take it! You are *not* ahead when you push, in fact you are quite a long way behind (u win 40%). ---- So in all I think you need to check your own game a bit. There are a fair few mistakes on both sides. But to answer your question I think he could have defended his hand in the obvious way - bet it. Just my thoughts Tim |
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Re: AJo 8 Handed
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Under FTOP he is making a mistake if he gives you the free card ... you are *not* ahead when you push, in fact you are quite a long way behind (u win 40%). [/ QUOTE ] I think these points are both irrelevant. He doesn't know what the opponent had when he pushed, and the opponent didn't know what he had when he checked on the flop. |
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Re: AJo 8 Handed
he said:
[ QUOTE ] I have good reason to believe I am ahead [/ QUOTE ] Why did he think he was ahead? all he has is over cards. The strength of his hand comes from drawing either a spade, A or J. Anybody with a pair is giving you more EV by allowing you to draw for free. I am not saying that the push is a terrible move, but I don't think it is as good as checking. just some thoughts Tim |
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Re: AJo 8 Handed
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Why did he think he was ahead? all he has is over cards. The strength of his hand comes from drawing either a spade, A or J. [/ QUOTE ] It was because a) he never reraised preflop b) he checked the flop I believed he would do both these things with AQ AJ AT A9 KQ AA KK maybe even some weaker Aces and Kings. I did not think he would check if he paired up with the board rags in some way, I also thought he would bet the flop with an overpair less than KK. I felt I had many outs if called which i felt was unlikely. Those were the things I was thinking, I basically was already scraping in that small pot, but I got burnt. I take your point about checking behind, I know I rarely do this and maybe this is a big fault. I know I lose a lot of chips in the 12-10 handed stages of these things and I tend to make a lot of this up when it goes full table again often with this sorts of aggresive (stupid) moves. Once again thanks for your comments. Regards Mack |
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Re: AJo 8 Handed
I hear what you are saying and you are certainly correct in many ways, however i feel certain if he bet half the pot on the flop or put in a decent raise i would have folded, in the reverse situation i would have tried to close this down on the flop, even with AK i would not be wanting all the money to go in there. I think it certainly looked good for me on the flop and his check call for nearly all his chips with a draw shocked me, I was very surprised he wanted to get all his money in.
Regards Mack PS I would have pushed the TT, and probably got called by JQs hehe [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]. |
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