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PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t50 (9 handed) converter
MP3 (t1775) CO (t1420) Hero (t1415) SB (t1850) BB (t220) UTG (t1240) UTG+1 (t1555) MP1 (t2900) MP2 (t1125) Preflop: Hero is Button with K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]. <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 raises to t150</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, CO calls t150, <font color="#CC3333">Hero ?</font> Can I push here or should I wait and see a flop? |
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I push here because I don't want to invite the blinds into the hand. Four or five people in a pot gives you poor reverse implied odds with AK. I just want to take it down now if possible.
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I push here because I don't want to invite the blinds into the hand. Four or five people in a pot gives you poor reverse implied odds with AK. I just want to take it down now if possible. [/ QUOTE ] I disagree, AK is great multi way b/c you get good pot odds. I think you're behind if you push here b/c there are 2 opponents and you will need to get lucky. Blinds are not calling unless they have a hand. |
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[ QUOTE ] I push here because I don't want to invite the blinds into the hand. Four or five people in a pot gives you poor reverse implied odds with AK. I just want to take it down now if possible. [/ QUOTE ] I disagree, AK is great multi way b/c you get good pot odds. [/ QUOTE ] Yeah, like when AJ8 falls, and one opponent has a set of eights, and the other has two-pair AJ, and the third has a straight draw, and the fourth has a flush draw. Obviously this is extreme, but it's real, real easy to go broke with AK in a multi-way pot when you hit. [ QUOTE ] I think you're behind if you push here b/c there are 2 opponents and you will need to get lucky. [/ QUOTE ] Luck is part of poker, last I checked. To steal from your other reply: http://twodimes.net/h/?z=1278594 pokenum -h ad kc - js jh - ah qs Holdem Hi: 1370754 enumerated boards cards win %win lose %lose tie %tie EV Kc Ad 465971 33.99 885662 64.61 19121 1.39 0.346 Js Jh 609928 44.50 756326 55.18 4500 0.33 0.446 Qs Ah 275734 20.12 1075899 78.49 19121 1.39 0.208 You're just about 1/3 to triple up *if* they both call. Add in your fold equity, things are looking fine. [ QUOTE ] Blinds are not calling unless they have a hand. [/ QUOTE ] If you call, you are pricing them in to call with marginal hands like low pairs and suited connectors. Exactly what you *don't* want with AK in a multiway pot. |
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I should clarify, AK is good for its str8 and flush potential, not tptk...
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I should clarify, AK is good for its str8 and flush potential, not tptk... [/ QUOTE ] AK has terrible straight potential. It can only make one straight. And this post is about AKo so it has terrible flush potential too. |
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I should clarify, AK is good for its str8 and flush potential, not tptk... [/ QUOTE ] Thats REALLY bad thinking DJ. If you want to play a hand purely for its "implied odds" here, then AKo is one of the last you choose. Think about why, besides the obvious. 54s, 44 etc...these you might call after two raises (not recomended, but this is what you mean) |
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I should clarify, AK is good for its str8 and flush potential, not tptk... [/ QUOTE ] Yah, it's one straight is way better than all those TPTKs it makes. ESPECIALLY considering SnGs are usually played as short stack poker. |
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push it, and quick too. they are probably folding, giving you a quite confortable T1800 stack, and youre rarely behind if someone calls.
this is very often the case with AK, and hence it is a good preflop pushing hand. |
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I would call and fold if you don't improve... AK gets you into a lot of trouble... 2 people interested in pot, one or both are likely to call if you push pf. You're probably up against an Ax and a pocket pair... no need to gamble this early in tourney
Plus you have position post flop so if it is checked to you you might even try a continuation bet of t150 if rags flop. |
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