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99, a maniac, and some interesting turn action
Here's a hand I just played that I wasn't too sure about.
Reads: CO in this hand was a borderline maniac. His stats were 75/33/2.3. He would bet and raise a lot of hands, but he might slow down if shown a lot of heat. He was also running extremely well, up almost 50 BB over not that many hands, which no doubt factors into his high stats somewhat. He sees a lot of showdowns, but his trashy starting hands kept hitting. Button was quite loose, but I didn't have as many hands on him. He seemed pretty passive. Party Poker 3.00/6.00 Hold'em <font color="#0000FF">(5 handed)</font> link Preflop: Hero is BB with 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]. <font color="#666666">1 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">CO raises</font>, Button calls, SB calls, Hero calls. Flop: (8.00 SB) 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font> SB checks, Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">CO bets</font>, Button calls, SB calls, Hero calls. Turn: (6.00 BB) 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font> SB checks, Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">CO bets</font>, Button calls, SB calls, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, CO calls, <font color="#CC3333">Button 3-bets</font>, SB folds, Hero calls, CO calls. River: (16.00 BB) J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font> Hero checks, CO checks, <font color="#CC3333">Button bets</font>, Hero calls, CO folds. Final Pot: 18.00 BB. |
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Re: 99, a maniac, and some interesting turn action
I would lead the flop hoping to get CO to raise, I think that's a nice opportunity to protect our hand. Everything else looks good, pot is so big that I guess you have to call the river.
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Re: 99, a maniac, and some interesting turn action
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I would lead the flop hoping to get CO to raise, I think that's a nice opportunity to protect our hand. Everything else looks good, pot is so big that I guess you have to call the river. [/ QUOTE ] Hmmmm...interesting. I was a big fan of waiting to raise, but this is not a bad play either. I need to think on this one a bit more.... [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img] |
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Re: 99, a maniac, and some interesting turn action
Do you mean that you should cap the turn? I wouldnt do it. I would probably have CRd the flop though.
edit. Leading into the pf better is probably better. |
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Re: 99, a maniac, and some interesting turn action
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Do you mean that you should cap the turn? I wouldnt do it. I would probably have CRd the flop though. [/ QUOTE ] I was much closer to folding the turn than capping it. |
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Re: 99, a maniac, and some interesting turn action
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[ QUOTE ] Do you mean that you should cap the turn? I wouldnt do it. I would probably have CRd the flop though. [/ QUOTE ] I was much closer to folding the turn than capping it. [/ QUOTE ] Can't fold the turn can we? How much do you discount our 7's if at all? |
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Re: 99, a maniac, and some interesting turn action
Heh. Crap. I actually wasn't paying attention to my gutterball outs. I can call this turn with 3 outs, though, so with 3 minimum for the 7's and 2 for the 9's, folding would be a pretty big mistake getting 15:1.
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Re: 99, a maniac, and some interesting turn action
oups didnt notice that it was the button became active. thought it was the maniac. yeah, that sucks. I think we are beat here. He has 88 or something when he CCs.
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Re: 99, a maniac, and some interesting turn action
I think this is a situation where I'd bet into the maniac on the flop and hope he'd raise up his garbage to blow away the button & SB. I definitely think I'd find a raise somewhere on that flop.
Button (you say a passive player) check/3-betting the turn scares the ever-loving crap out of me. I'd probably call the river anyway, but it's close... |
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Re: 99, a maniac, and some interesting turn action
"Interesting" is a good word. WTF do we call Button's turn play? A donk re-raise?
I guess I don't know what I would do differently here. I have a hard time folding an overpair on the turn, but I don't like that a passive player has shown aggression here (even if he has shown it in an odd way like this). I guess at this point I do exactly what you do, get to the showdown as cheaply as possible. Good "wait to raise" imo. It would be nice if we could force at least one player to call two cold, but I think that our equity edge is enough to justify a raise here. |
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