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Question about MTT ROI versus 1 table ROI (Mark Blade)
I was just re-reading a section in Mark Blades "Professional Poker" book where he says that many "professional" no limit players have an expectation to earn 5 times the buy-in of whatever tournaments they play in (average over time), but that a single table satellite player can only earn 10-50% ROI due to the "luck" factor.
I always assumed that the long term ROI of MTT and single table SNG's would be the same, but after thinking about what he said it makes a lot of sense. For example, I know people who might be able to get "lucky" and win a 1 table tournament, but no way could they ever take down a 300 person tournament or a 700 person tournament or whatever....they are just too bad of a player and will eventually donk off their stack before winning the whole thing. Anyway, my question is do you agree that MTT's are essentially more profitable and/or have a higher long term ROI factor than 1 table tournaments?? I'm pretty sure I'm interpreting what he's saying in this part of the book correctly (it's on page 82-83 if any of you own it and want to see what I'm talking about).....and I just wanted to see if any of you out there find this to be true as well??? |
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Re: Question about MTT ROI versus 1 table ROI (Mark Blade)
Sorry no one has anwsered yet, let me give you this link to a similar question that I asked today.
http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/showth...e=0#Post4308357 |
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Re: Question about MTT ROI versus 1 table ROI (Mark Blade)
I've found MTTs to be extremely profitable. However, you have to understand that there is quite a bit of variance in them, you have to get very lucky to win one, and you can go quite a while between good wins. For that reason many people like STTs or cash games as a hedge. I haven't had to do that yet, but I've also been judicious with my winnings and have run pretty well the last 4 1/2 months.
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Re: Question about MTT ROI versus 1 table ROI (Mark Blade)
Great.....thanks!!!
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Re: Question about MTT ROI versus 1 table ROI (Mark Blade)
If you have a significant sample size of SNGs played and MTTs played I think you'd see that this is unquestionably true.
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Re: Question about MTT ROI versus 1 table ROI (Mark Blade)
Do you guys actually believe that "many" pros are pulling in 5*buy-in?
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Re: Question about MTT ROI versus 1 table ROI (Mark Blade)
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Do you guys actually believe that "many" pros are pulling in 5*buy-in? [/ QUOTE ] Not in the long run. But I also suspect that no one has played enough MTTs at any given level to have a significant sample size. |
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Re: Question about MTT ROI versus 1 table ROI (Mark Blade)
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but that a single table satellite player can only earn 10-50% ROI due to the "luck" factor. [/ QUOTE ] more like 10-20%. And not due to the luck factor. It's due to there's only 10 players. So, 10-20% ROI is not bad at all. I'm not familiar with the book you quote, but it sounds like he's talking about live play; so it's a bit outdated since multi-tabling would not be possible. Anyway, the more important number is $/hr. not ROI for most people. I'm no expert on MTTs, but 500% seems high to me as well. |
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