Fold flop?

DonP · #1 04-29-2005, 03:10 PM

should i fold when he 3 bets?

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Preflop: Hero is Button with T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
1 fold, UTG+1 raises, 4 folds, Hero calls, SB calls, BB calls.

Flop: (8 SB) 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (4 players)
SB checks, BB checks, UTG+1 bets, Hero raises, SB folds, BB folds, UTG+1 3-bets, Hero calls.

Turn: (7 BB) T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
UTG+1 bets, Hero raises, UTG+1 calls.

River: (11 BB) 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
UTG+1 checks, Hero bets, UTG+1 calls.

Final Pot: 13 BB

Buckmulligan · #2 04-29-2005, 03:23 PM

I wouldn't fold to 3 bets given your preflop action; a single raise by villain doesn't even come close to indicating he has you beat. Had you three bet preflop, which I'm pretty avid about here, and had he capped, then you might consider a fold on this flop facing 3 bets.

2+2 Junkie · #3 04-29-2005, 03:24 PM

The only problem I can see here is not re-raising before the flop. After that, good hand, played it well.

NickRegino · #4 04-29-2005, 03:46 PM

i would definately not reraise PF because TT isn't that good of a hand to be doing it with, you could be against AK AQ AJ JJ QQ KK so on and so forth, a reraise PF could get you into trouble

KaiShin · #5 04-29-2005, 03:49 PM

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i would definately not reraise PF because TT isn't that good of a hand to be doing it with, you could be against AK AQ AJ JJ QQ KK so on and so forth, a reraise PF could get you into trouble

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I can't think of anything witty to say, so let me just say this.

You MUST reraise this PF.

moose47 · #6 04-29-2005, 03:54 PM

I sure hope I'm up against AK, AQ, or AJ. Those certainly aren't hands I'm afraid of with TT. A 3-bet preflop puts you in good position to isolate UTG+1 which would be great if he has one of the above.

NickRegino · #7 04-29-2005, 06:49 PM

so take this to a 3-bet flop? and if caps then what?

k000k · #8 04-29-2005, 03:26 PM

No, go into calldown mode. You're getting 14:1 right there, and if you hit, you have position, you'll be able to get at least 3 big bets out of him during the rest of the hand. That's 20:1 pot+implied, plus the fact that you may be ahead already.

BTW, Don't post the rest of the hand, cut it off right after villain 3bets. Seeing you spike your boat makes it an 'easy call' even if it isn't..

edit: yes, easy PF raise too btw..

Buckmulligan · #9 04-29-2005, 03:29 PM

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No, go into calldown mode. You're getting 14:1 right there, and if you hit, you have position, you'll be able to get at least 3 big bets out of him during the rest of the hand. That's 20:1 pot+implied, plus the fact that you may be ahead already.

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With position, I'm not sure if call down mode is the best option here. As I said before, I'm not confident that we are behind; if we are ahead, this hand needs protection on the turn. What do you think about us raising the turn, folding to a 3 bet, and then checking behind on the river?

KaiShin · #10 04-29-2005, 03:39 PM

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No, go into calldown mode. You're getting 14:1 right there, and if you hit, you have position, you'll be able to get at least 3 big bets out of him during the rest of the hand. That's 20:1 pot+implied, plus the fact that you may be ahead already.

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A flop raise here should be automatic. You've still got 2 people to act behind you, you want to increase your chances of winning this hand UI.