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Villain seems pretty decent. something like 22/14/2.8 over 100 hands
Party Poker 3/6 Hold'em (6 max, 4 handed) converter Preflop: Hero is UTG with 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]. <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">SB 3-bets</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Hero calls. Flop: (7 SB) 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> <font color="#CC3333">SB bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">SB 3-bets</font>, Hero calls. Turn: (6.50 BB) T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> <font color="#CC3333">SB bets</font>, Hero calls. River: (8.50 BB) 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> <font color="#CC3333">SB bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, SB calls. Final Pot: 12.50 BB Following Chat: Villain: Stupid Villain: How do you even see the river there... Hero: (in smarta$$ mode) I pressed call on the turn. |
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Wow. I'd fold preflop. I'd just call the flop. I'd fold the turn.
I think you played this one really bad. |
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Wow. I'd fold preflop. I'd just call the flop. I'd fold the turn. I think you played this one really bad. [/ QUOTE ] Thanks Evan. 4 handed I thought the PF raise might be decent...guess not. On the flop, I was hoping I could get a free turn from overs....not so. On the turn, I thought I could easily have 7 outs there. Thoughts on my thoughts. |
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4-handed the pfr is fine.
Krishan - 87 |
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On the flop, I was hoping I could get a free turn from overs....not so. [/ QUOTE ] Something you want to consider is the amount of times your gutshot is your only good card. Often your A is tainted pretty badly, so you're raising the flop hoping to get one of something like 6-7 turn cards. Not worth it when you consider the chances of being 3bet, as you were. |
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[ QUOTE ] On the flop, I was hoping I could get a free turn from overs....not so. [/ QUOTE ] Something you want to consider is the amount of times your gutshot is your only good card. Often your A is tainted pretty badly, so you're raising the flop hoping to get one of something like 6-7 turn cards. Not worth it when you consider the chances of being 3bet, as you were. [/ QUOTE ] I agree. That wasn't well thought out at the time. Had I played this properly on the flop, I could have folded the turn. |
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Something you want to consider is the amount of times your gutshot is your only good card. Often your A is tainted pretty badly, so you're raising the flop hoping to get one of something like 6-7 turn cards. Not worth it when you consider the chances of being 3bet, as you were. [/ QUOTE ] Given the flop action, this guy has an overpair or set 90% of the time. None of these hands picks up a club draw on the turn. The ace is not tainted badly. 2/3rds of the time we hit an ace it is good. (See my math in other parts of the thread.) The flop raise is debatable, but I like it in a pot this size if villain is capable of laying down big unimproved aces on later streets. Even if you intend to take a free card I still like the flop raise with between 6-7 outs, which is what we have on average on the flop against villain's range. Villain will have AK and AQ type hands often here (before we see the flop 3 bet), and you might even be ahead of KQ. This pot is too big not to fight for. |
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[ QUOTE ] Wow. I'd fold preflop. I'd just call the flop. I'd fold the turn. I think you played this one really bad. [/ QUOTE ] Thanks Evan. 4 handed I thought the PF raise might be decent...guess not. On the flop, I was hoping I could get a free turn from overs....not so. On the turn, I thought I could easily have 7 outs there. Thoughts on my thoughts. [/ QUOTE ] I'd raise from the button, so I supose it can't be that bad, but I still don't like it. I don't think your draw is strong enough or the pot is big enough to care about free cards. There's no way you can give yourself 7 outs. I think its more in the 5-5.5 range. Even with very generous implied odds assumptions this is neutral at best. |
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THANK YOU. Evan's post is clearly correct as is his next one. You are far from "guaranteed" to get two bets if you hit the ace also.
Jeff |
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THANK YOU. Evan's post is clearly correct as is his next one. You are far from "guaranteed" to get two bets if you hit the ace also. Jeff [/ QUOTE ] We don't need 2 bets. The implied odds are strickly from the straight. Krishan |
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