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KK, overcards again
CO is loose but has been getting a lot of lucky boards so far, so may be even more overconfident as well.
also, alternate situation, what if the river is not an A/Q/J? does my line change? Party Poker 0.50/1 Hold'em (6 max, 6 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx Preflop: Hero is SB with K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]. <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP calls, <font color="#CC3333">CO raises</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, BB calls, MP folds, CO calls. Flop: (10 SB) J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font> <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, BB folds, <font color="#CC3333">CO raises</font>, Hero calls. Turn: (7 BB) 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">CO bets</font>, Hero calls. River: (9 BB) Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">CO bets</font>, Hero calls. Final Pot: 11 BB |
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Re: KK, overcards again
tough spot. He prob isnt raising/semi bluff raising a draw as you have two of the Kings. I think you will find he will have an A or 2 pair here very often.
Id be happier to call this down if the river was an Ace rather than a Q or J as now all we are beating is a J or a bluff. I usually call this river but i think its probably a leak. |
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Re: KK, overcards again
You need to fold this turn pretty hard.
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Re: KK, overcards again
given how loose CO is? seriously? not only do i have a good chance to be ahead but 6 outs as well if i'm not.
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Re: KK, overcards again
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given how loose CO is? seriously? not only do i have a good chance to be ahead but 6 outs as well if i'm not. [/ QUOTE ] You're overvaluing your outs. Sometimes he'll have AK, so you're drawing to 1 out for the pot and 4 for a split. Sometimes he'll already have a straight. You need 5 outs for the odds you're getting. I'd say you have about 4. I guess it's closer than my original assumption, but I still think I toss it. |
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Re: KK, overcards again
I c/f the turn. And if i don't have the discipline to do that, i c/f the river when a second Q comes, as you're now hoping that villain is overplaying exactly Jx or a pocket below TT which i consider unlikely on this board.
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Re: KK, overcards again
I'm folding the river. Not enough you're beating even getting 10 to 1. Turn call looks close but good, you usually have 6 outs but your effective outs are a little over 5 considering the times he has AT or KQ where you have 3 outs.
Edit: You're not necessarily behind on the turn, either, as you pointed out. |
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Re: KK, overcards again
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or KQ [/ QUOTE ] then we have the best hand [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img] |
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Re: KK, overcards again
I'm thinking a street ahead. [img]/images/graemlins/crazy.gif[/img]
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Re: KK, overcards again
Fold the turn. We showed strength preflop, and he raised us on the AQJ flop.
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