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10/20 hand reading exercise
ok full ring here, no reads really except that this guy has been raising quite a few times recently. but every time he has shown down a premium hand.
I (5700) limp, villain (covers) raises to 85 in CO, BB (800) calls and I call. Flop (290): K [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] T [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 4 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] BB checks, I check, villain bets 220. BB calls, I raise to 800. Villain calls and BB folds. Turn (2110): J [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] I bet 1400, villain calls. River (4910): 9 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] I shove for 3400. what hand range do you put me on (street by street maybe) and what do you need if you are villain to call this river? |
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Re: 10/20 hand reading exercise
what position did you limp here? Flop I put you on either a big draw here like Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (though this one might just call flop), or a good made hand like 444 (POSSIBLY KT). Turn nothing changes. River now you only hands I'd eliminate are KT, I'm not sure KT would fire allin on that river. no idea what villain can have here, probably AK or AA like a [censored], on that river I'd need QJ+ to call, but I'd have 3bet a set before then and probably wouldn't have called 1 pair hands on both flop and turn if it's that deep.
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Re: 10/20 hand reading exercise
Flop play is a common squeeze that she loves. Doesn't mean she has a hand. The river makes me think she somehow backed into a hand.
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Re: 10/20 hand reading exercise
sorry i limped in UTG+1.
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Re: 10/20 hand reading exercise
Preflop: 2 broadways, most probably suited. KQ, AJ, AQ.
Flop: Top pair, good kicker. KQ, KJ, AK. Turn: KQ, KJ, AQ. River: KQ, AK. Villain needs a Queen to call. Fishlips |
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Re: 10/20 hand reading exercise
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Preflop: 2 broadways, most probably suited. KQ, AJ, AQ. Flop: Top pair, good kicker. KQ, KJ, AK. Turn: KQ, KJ, AQ. River: KQ, AK. [/ QUOTE ] Perhaps I'm just dense, but what about the river play excludes AQ? Are you thinking that it's too big a bet? Given the pot size, a stack with the AQ may well get a call. |
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Re: 10/20 hand reading exercise
Not too much about his post makes sense.
My initial thoughts were A [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] Q [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] due to the bet sizing, but each time that I've started to formulate a reply I've started having doubts about everything that I wrote. |
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Re: 10/20 hand reading exercise
haha, me too
then I talked to her directly, and thanked god I didn't actually reply to the post |
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Re: 10/20 hand reading exercise
Ugh. I did it again. Started writing and then realized I was wrong. I need to do this more often. I seem to learn a lot even if I can't explain anything.
The only thing that hasn't changed too much in my mind is that duck's flop raise looks like it doesn't want action (either to protect against a draw, or because she's on a draw herself). On the turn it now looks like she's trying to keep the guy in. I went and wrote more again and deleted it because once again I keep contradicting myself. It would really help though to get an idea of what sort of preflop range we're working with for a limp/call UTG+1. Most of the hands she posts simply involve betting and raising so when I see calling I just get confused. =( |
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Re: 10/20 hand reading exercise
Typo on the AK. I meant AQ.
Fishlips |
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